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Pyramid Lake is now a fully autonomous collective in Nevada. Hexbear users are sitting in their nice, air-conditioned, bedrooms while actual workers are out there building community support during a disaster. They are pooling resources, rationing, and helping one another survive. I thought the point was to have support, albeit critical, for AES, but I guess not. Burning Man is closer to Marx's ideal socialist state than China ever will be.

Can we just defederate from them already? What is the point in continuing to exist with people who actively spew hatred and misinformation about our comrades in Nevada?

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[-] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 75 points 1 year ago

We're mostly just goofing on the fact that a bunch of rich kids got their environmentally disastrous vacation ruined by rain.

Nobody is actually sick or dying at burning man right now, that's all fake. It's just rich people being mildly inconvenienced and destroying their $40,000 cars because they'd rather do that than camp in the rain.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

This. Burning Man is built on hipocracy and actual, literal bougies decadence. They can survive a little rain, they'll be fine. And they'll be telling each other how they survived the rainy burning man with pride for the rest of their lives.

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago

When I went to the rez in South Dakota recently we had three days straight of literal monsoons, the sun dancers continued dancing all day through those rains. We didn't have half the resources these bourgie ass fucks have access to.

[-] PKMKII@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

My favorite Burning Man anecdote was one I read in a magazine about a decade and change ago about San Francisco, right when the last traces of the old hippie counterculture was being snuffed out by techbros. It was a not-rich San Franciscan talking about their difficulties with the housing market. They had a floor they were renting from an old landlord, but the house got bought out by a new owner that promptly told them they were getting kicked out. They went to the new landlord’s floor to ask for an extension as they were having trouble finding new housing. The landlord was in the process of putting on this ridiculous light-up jacket and snapped at them, “Can’t you see I’m getting ready for Burning Man!?” Which says everything about both Burning Man and San Francisco.

[-] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 year ago
[-] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago

Yep, I actually enjoy and somewhat regularly go camping in the rain by myself, so it's really funny to me to see hundreds of people freaking out like their life is over because they're experiencing a much cushier version of something I do for fun. They've brought generators and buildings and camper vans. Totally just "first world problems" complaining.

The fake stuff about Ebola or whatever would be fucked up to laugh at of it were true, I'll agree with you there

[-] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

From this perspective, yeah. The articles make it seem they're experiencing a big flood but if it's like you say then it kinda make me angry and quite sad that i fell for it. My bad.

[-] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

They've so far received about 2cm of rain. There may be as much as an additional 2 cm of rain. Not really a huge flood.

[-] JuneFall@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So this thing is mostly a show of the organizers having failed infrastructure, having failed to deal with relatively low rain and not having sensible sanitation infrastructure, as well as having a focus on car travel instead of public transport to the event area? I do get that in the desert your storm water takes time to get into the ground, but what you describe is not that big a problem, if you have the means to deal with it.

Rainfall reports from the National Weather Service suggest up to 0.8 inches of rain fell in the area from Friday morning through Saturday morning – approximately two to three months of rainfall for that location this time of year. Even small rainfall totals can lead to flooding in the dry Nevada desert.

Flood watches were in effect in northeast Nevada, to the east of Black Rock City. Those watches noted individual storms were producing up to one inch of rainfall, but higher totals — as much as 3 inches — would be possible through the weekend.

The festival, which began in 1986, is held each summer in Black Rock City – a temporary metropolis that is erected annually for the festival. The city comes complete with planning services, emergency, safety and sanitary infrastructure.

Doesn't seem to be "complete with sanitary and safety infrastructure". If you wouldn't do it in a desert you could also ensure good seepage, and using other kind of toilets would've reduced the problem with the toilets. All in all an example of US individualism in planing for communal events.

[-] D61@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

eeeehhhh...

I think they site that Burning Man is at is technically in a basin or valley between some mountain ranges, so that 2cm of rain collects from miles around and comes flowing right down to them. Nobody is getting drowned or anything, there aren't any wadis near enough to where Burning Man's at, but I could believe that for a while there was 10 or 20 cm of standing water for a few hours.

In addition to what others has said its worth noting that there's a level of irony to the fact that people who go to burning man tend to be wealthy young people who go to engage in a drug fueled hedonistic play at anarchism and community before returning to their lives of every day imperial excess. But when their pseudo community encounters any adversity they panic and wreck their dads rv fleeing to safety. Its funny to see their hypocrisy exposed, much like many people felt about fyre festival.

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