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How is it any people cannot put themselves in that place with imagining? Even animals could identify with what would not be desirable. Humans should have the sensibility to know they would not want what the animals being used are put through, we can likewise choose to not have anything to do with that, and we can already find out ourselves that there are ways to be very healthy this way without products from animals. And the same amount of use of resources for it and contribution to damage to environments with loss of species does not need to be continued then. https://healthyaging.emory.edu/could-eating-30-plants-a-week-be-the-answer-to-better-health/

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Vegans: Make a community for themselves

Meat-eaters: See block button. Choose to downvote/comment against it instead.

If posts about veganism are that offensive to you, just block and move on. If there were a com about meat-eating, that’s what I’d do with it.

Okay, all you wonderful, reasonable people, I’m ready for your downvotes!

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 1 week ago

I'm vegan. I chose to downvote and to report to mods.

We're better than this low effort shitpost.

[-] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Meat-eaters: See block button. Choose to downvote/comment against it instead.

They hate when others speak the truth, which - naturally - makes them look bad. They can only feel good about themselves if the truth is supressed and never spoken out loud.

[-] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

The only reason Im here is because i browse by everything and posts in this comm pop up frequently. Same as womenstuff so I get exposed to these posts without making any effort at all to encounter them as non vegetarian.

I don't vote on the vast majority of posts I encounter. I don't care for the voting system but I'll use it if a post strikes me as bad content for Lemmy in general.

I don't care what comm I'm in. Rarely check. I'll engage with content if I have something to say, usually pass without comment. As most people do.

I don't understand why restricted comms even show up for the whole Lemmy to see if they aren't welcome to have all of lemmys eyeballs on them.

People who post content in niche places that are actively hostile to the vast majority of a larger community are naturally going to get massacred in any popular vote. That's just math. And it's a problem because it's content for the wrong audience and just causes friction.

As far as I know unlike a comm that restricts who is allowed to post, non vegans are welcome to be here even if they aren't very much appreciated and many of the vegans would just prefer they avoided it entirely instead of messing with it. Look but don't touch kind of thing that's my approach, but I get it wrong or just have had days too like anyone else.

I don't think blocking out things you don't like, or make you a bit sqeemish about, is a good habit to form. It's absolutely a valuable tool but it's too easy to create echo chambers and I constantly see that lack of encountering things greater than your own opinion being bad for your health over the long run.

We need to challenge the things that make us uncomfortable to make any real change happen. I wish I had a better solution for the people who need tear down all the things they don't personally feel comfortable with it that challenge them in someway.

Perhaps I'm naive, but I look at this place and others like it as people sharing their opinions not communities acting as a group. It's convenient to have those communities because they are real things that exist, but the content is for everyone even when everyone shouldn't be responding to it. I hope I explained that properly.

Food and the consumption of it is a human universality. We all have it in common so I think whether you are vegan, vegetarian, or neither, it will draw interest far outside those it is intended to because food is just relatable one way or another.

I think it's very mature of the vegans communities I've encountered on here that they don't segregate themselves. I think that's the only way to stop hostilities between different worldviews and start helping each other be better.

Thanks for getting through my dumb thoughts. If you are ever in Quebec City, one of the best soups I've ever had was a Thai curry soup from Don Vegan the first vegan only restaurant in that historic city.

You’re cool, Jarix, and I appreciate your mindset. I agree that keeping an open mind is a good idea, though I’ve personally come to veganism on my own and don’t see any benefit from reading potential meat-based posts (unless it’s a recipe I can easily swap ingredients for.) I grew up in a meat-eating family and have probably heard every argument against it under the sun. So when people come trolling on here (as you’ve seen), it becomes an eye-rolling waste of time for all involved. I don’t think blocking pro-meat coms would be a sign of a closed mind, any more than blocking the coding coms (since I don’t code) or the German coms (since I don’t speak German) would be. It just wouldn’t apply to me, and that’s fine!

It would be lovely if more people had your mindset. I think people should question everything, taking the time to critically examine what they claim to believe and match their actions to it. At least, to the best of their ability.

Anyway, your “dumb thoughts” don’t seem dumb at all. I’m no authority in this com, but I’d welcome you back any day. :)

[-] IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 week ago

Vegans: Make a community for themselves

Meat-eaters: See block button. Choose to downvote/comment against it instead.

Oh nooo, our echo chamber is being invaded by discussion!

[-] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Counterpoint: western society itself is a carnist echo chamber. We’re surrounded by their views most everywhere we go. All we want is a little space online where we don’t have to be drowned in it.

[-] IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip -3 points 1 week ago

Does anyone force you to eat meat? Are you offended by the mere idea of a t-bone steak?

If yes to the first: you're an actual victim.

If yes to the second: you're drowning yourself, nobody screams about a genuine carnivorous diet, but I've never seen a vegan who just sits down at a meal and doesn't berate everyone at the table that eats meat.

Fuck this kind of victim-complex delusion.

[-] Emma_Gold_Man@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

I've never seen a vegan who just sits down at a meal and doesn't berate everyone at the table that eats meat.

(Emphasis mine)

Exactly. You didn't see them. They were there, but you didn't notice because they didn't say anything.

[-] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I have shared meals with vegans who don't do what you describe. Almost all of them in fact don't do what you describe

[-] IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 week ago

Okay cool, we both have confirmation bias, just because you know some apples are good, doesn't mean the whole batch is.

[-] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Just because you have never seen an apple doesnt mean they don't exist is better

I am not confirming anything other than I have a different experience.

I'm sharing an experience for the record that there are vegans who aren't assholes the way you describe them to be as that is an incredibly popular stereotype. An unhelpful stereotype. It also includes that I have encountered your stated experience and not denied that it can be true

I thought it would be helpful for other people to hear that from a non vegan meat eater who has had plenty of healthy encounters with vegans and that just because someone is vegan it doesn't make them unpleasant people the way you seemed to me to be arguing.

Ill be here arguing with people but begrudgingly welcomed while you will just get eventually ignored or banned completely and then you will contribute nothing to the discussion. Which is perhaps for the best then if that's how it turns out. But maybe I'll get banned. Either way It won't really affect me much, but seems like you have a need to scream at people and that seems like it will cause you some personal problems.

Good luck

[-] IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 week ago

Wow, three whole paragraphs of 'no u' and 'get banned' instead of just reporting me? You sure you're not the one that needs to scream at something? Get bent, and continue to be a prefect example of why people hate vegans as a whole.

[-] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I'm not a vegan. Currently brining some chicken breasts, so that will be an incredibly hard thing to do to be an example of why people "hate vegans as a whole. "

And I had nothing better to do and you keep responding. I'll eventually get bored of you and then forget your existence. Why would I waste mods time reporting you when you are utterly forgettable and don't cause me personally any problems. For what? Being unpleasant? That's shit mods don't need to deal with. If members of Vegan community want to report you I'll gladly support their efforts though. I would even given em a hug, if they wanted one. Simply because I'm engaging with you doesn't mean I actually care about your opinion. It simply amuses me to do so in this moment.

[-] Zozano@aussie.zone 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Does anyone force you to eat meat? If yes to the first: you're an actual victim.

No mention of the actual victims of carnist assholery.

Also, you've never seen a vegan who just sits down and doesn't berate everyone?

Yeah, no shit? It's a self fulfilling prophecy; if someone doesn't announce their veganism, then you're not going to know they are vegan. Duh.

Despite being vegan for 6 years, I've never heard another vegan bring up the conversation at any dinner table, with and without carnists. It's always carnists who want to ask questions, and for what it's worth, they've also done so in good faith.

[-] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 week ago

I've never seen a good faith argument against veganism in my life. It's all trolling and tired "jokes."

[-] nsrxn@mstdn.social 1 points 1 week ago

I don't believe there are any good arguments against veganism, but there are plenty of bad arguments for it.

[-] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

The only good argument I know against veganism/vegetarianism these days is that meat tastes good. It's the only thing stopping my ADHD ass from taking the time to change my habits.

[-] jtrek@startrek.website 1 points 1 week ago

The only good argument I know against veganism/vegetarianism these days is that meat tastes good.

If "the sensory experience is good" is enough of a justification on its own, then a whole lot of other things are coming along for the ride.

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