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[-] minorkeys@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

And why did they get active? Because things got bad enough it affected their life personally, circumstances provoked it, not their wisdom, or foresight, or morals or good ideas. Where were they while things were getting here? Change happens when circumstances provoked it, not when an organizer tries to explain why they should care and act. They aren't waking up, they're suffering. As soon as they are soothed and safe, they'll go right back to being part of problem. And if they're intimidated or frightened, they'll cower and hide, betraying the movement.

[-] bearboiblake@pawb.social 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Sometimes, but not always. Many people were radicalized by Gaza, others were radicalized by Trump threatening to invade Greenland, others still by local stories and events. I know from my colleagues in the US that ICE in MN radicalized many people, too. Most of our new members actually weren't personally affected, unless you count seeing TikToks of atrocities as being affected.

Look, I understand where you're coming from, I've been in this fight since I was 17, and I know how it has felt like swimming against the tide for a long time, but I am categorically telling you that things are actually finally changing. You can be a part of it, or not, but please can you just stop trying to discourage others from doing something to help?

[-] minorkeys@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

And I'm telling you it's an illusion. It's a temporary change in behavior by a small number of people who were personally affected, either by their own emotional outrage over a circumstance or because the American Gestapo was shooting civilians in their city where they live. Once the threat is out of sight, their eagerness will fade, despite the wisdom you probably preach about vigilance and keeping up the momentum, however right you are. People don't act because of the wisdom of a distant thing, they act when they are personally affected. Masses of people acting that is necessary for real change only occurs at critical moments when mobs form. I can not give you a single example of masses of people acting when it is wise rather than when it is desperate. Can you? If you can't find those moments in history, perhaps you need to rethink your strategy for change to align with how people actually behave and not how it would beneficial for them to behave. What ever convinced you that your strategy is good? How many organizers and unions have utterly failed because people failed to stay engaged and committed? Business knows this, governments know this, they use it to break and prevent opposition all the time, they're very good at it.

[-] bearboiblake@pawb.social 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I present you with my actual lived experiences and you are just like "Actually, no, despite the fact I am not involved in activist efforts, somehow I know all about them, and I am gonna tell you how to run a movement I want no part of". Brother, do you work for the CIA, or what?

[-] minorkeys@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You present me with an interpretation of reality based in your subjective experiences and it doesn't fit with my own understanding. Why should I simply believe you over others? The stories of your life are just one set amongst many, many others. Why should yours carry so much weight that it tips the scale against recorded history?

Ask yourself, when have you seen the most engagement and when have you seen the least? Why is there such a difference even if the issues are equally important?

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