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However, we don't have a "hardened security" approach, we aren't developing a phone for pedo(censored) so they can evade justice.

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[-] Armand1@lemmy.world 35 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

The full translation of the clip of Gaël Duval provided by GrapheneOS:

There's the attack surface, on that front we're not security specialists here, so I couldn't answer you precisely, but from the discussions I've had, it seems that everything we do reduces attack surface.

However, we don't have a "hardened security" approach, we aren't developing a phone for pedo(censored) so they can evade justice. So there aren't difficult things to check if the memory is corrupted, really hardened security stuff that could clearly be useful for executives, in the secret service, or whatever.

That's not our goal, our goal is to start from an observation: today our personal data is constantly being plundered and that wouldn't be legal in real life with the mail or the telephone, we want to change that. So we are making you a product that changes that by default for anyone.

As a french speaker, I can attest that the translation is fairly accurate.

While I don't agree with the characterisation Gaël Duval makes here, I believe the statement from GrapheneOS here:

Duval and his organizations have consistently taken a stance against protecting users from exploits. In this video, he once again claims protecting against exploits is for only useful pedophiles and spies.

Is a bit disingenuous. It sounds like they do make some efforts to secure their device, but it's not their main focus. Theirs is to improve privacy first and foremost.

I would take anything GrapheneOS devs says with a grain of salt, as we all know that they have quite an adversarial relationship with... well... everyone. But especially other OS makers.

[-] Danitos@reddthat.com 24 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

It sounds like they do make some efforts to secure their device, but it's not their main focus. Theirs is to improve privacy first and foremost.

I don't have any issue with that: different OSes have different priorities and that's okay. However, I feel like he's basically saying that users of hardened secure devices are pedos, and I have a very big issue with that. I don't know if maybe in French it doesn't sound that way, but they English translation does for me.

[-] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 7 points 8 hours ago

That's how it sounds. So, I'm a pedophile because I run GrapheneOS on my phone? I guess I better tell my wife, and my kids.

[-] punchmesan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 8 hours ago

... and my kids

"Hey Kiddos! So I have some good news and some bad news..."

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