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Here’s my two cents. It’s hard for people to keep up with the euphemism treadmill. There was a time when the word “female” didn’t have the negative connotation that it does now mostly thanks to co-opting by incels. It should also be stated that the word “male” doesn’t have the same negative connotations and it’s similar to how there’s slurs for black people but none for white people.

So why do people find “female” offensive? Well for starters it’s dehumanizing. Women is a less academic term and female implies some biological essentialism. I think the crux as to why it’s a big deal now is that women do not refer to themselves as females in the manner that men do. Men do not think of themselves as males, they do not call other men males, men call themselves men. male and female are simply outdated terms.

I suspect one day as society moves towards a more genderqueer position men and women will become unacceptable to say too. Idk. Like I think we need to acknowledge that there is such thing as a euphemism treadmill, that languages change, words become offensive or nonoffensive over time, and like all we can do in order to be a fucking decent human bean is to conform to society’s standards as to what is acceptable as according to the treadmill. Unless it’s some shit like calling the homeless, the unhoused. Then in those specific instances we got to run against the treadmill. But in this specific instance, we need to run with the treadmill on this one. Nothing feels better than conforming with society.

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[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 year ago

Isn't this about using "female" as a noun?

[-] ChestRockwell@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago

Yeah that's how I understand it. Like saying "that's a female horse" is normal and fine.

The issue is saying "look at that female over there" or "she is a female". That's the dehumanizing shit, "look at that woman" or "she is a woman" is far less weird as well.

[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because of the demeaning usage as a noun, some people are starting to get uncomfortable with even using female as an adjective, and you will hear people use "woman" as an adjective like "she became the first woman triathlete" which isn't really right but it's not that bad... I dunno, I'm a guy so take my two cents for what they're worth, but I don't think we should surrender the entire word "female" to weird online fascist nerds

[-] happybirthdaygonzolo@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

I think as a whole we should try to make language gender neutral. But I can think of better hills to die on. Like most people are conscious of referring to women as female, even women. As we become more aware of it then I think things will start to change.

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