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submitted 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by RedWizard@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

Several months ago I had a lot of ideas rolling around in my head regarding this idea of community, networking (social and electronic), and administration. It looked something like this and like this.

From a post I wrote on community:

As working-class people, as wage laborers, as members of physical and digital communities, there must be a way to reorganize our digital social lives so that we can bridge the gap between the global and the local. So much of the "local" is lost in the global digital sea. Hundreds, thousands, or hundreds of thousands of people all live within the local range of each of us, and yet the platforms we engage with thrust us into communicating with people hundreds, thousands, or hundreds of thousands of miles away. Much of this has to do with capital accumulation, you need to centralize as many people into your tent to maximize profits. This, in a way, is a form of capitalist encirclement. Our digital lives, and digital communities, are at the mercy of capitalist rule and often subjected to capitalist discipline.

I still feel this is broadly true. In the time since I made this post Hexbear has had its ups and downs, both social, and technical. We've nearly lost our domain address, we've had a fair few struggle sessions, we've debated the contradiction between posters and mods. We've seen new left communities emerge into our space, like the comrades at Anarchist Nexus. The social consciousness of places like db0 have made qualitative shifts leading to principled action to protect their community from fascists. Our own @TankieTanuki@hexbear.net is suffering from success, hosting our beloved TankieTube. We've seen the reputation of piefed (a competing solution in the Reddit-like space) have its reputation tarnished over a silly comment I made about how it works. I launched news.abolish.capital, which continues to deliver left news to roughly 50 Lemmy instances every day. I'm sure there is more I'm missing!

What this represents is a growing network of like-minded people, all willing to put in their own time, energy, and money, into building what I think can be called a Proletariat Network, or The Proletarian Web. An Anti-capitalist, revolutionary, network creating spaces that allow us all to communicate, educate, and uplift each other from across the world. We are a diverse, funny, skilled, and resourceful group of people to be sure!

I hesitate to prescribe what exactly The Proletarian Web is, because I think it is bigger then any single persons ideas. All I've done here is what amounts to branding. A logo and a title, to go with my observations.

I write this out as a kind of springboard. I'm currently in the process of finally putting a front page on the abolish.capital domain I bought several months ago. In doing so, it got me thinking about this idea again. I want to include a kind of, manifesto if you will, about what exactly "The Proletarian Web" is, on the site. I want to compile a list of communities and sites that constitute that idea. I want to build a hub that makes The Proletarian Web accessible to more people, to direct them to more places.

I think though, if I'm going to be doing something like that, I can't just rely on my own ideas. I think I need to hear from you, those who inhabit this space along with me. After all, this thing that is forming isn't doing so by itself in isolation. It is the accumulative efforts of all of us! I think whatever we describe The Proletarian Web to be, should be a reflection of the people who exist there.

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[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

To get an idea of what I mean, read this comment here: https://hexbear.net/comment/7114966

But I think what @RedNajm@hexbear.net said is very close to what I mean. There isn't an existing pact that binds all these sites together, but there is a shared ideological character to the sites, which is an explicit proletarian ideological character. Lemmy, is a fairly utilitarian design, but it originates from an ideologically proletarian perspective. I do not know if there needs to be a formal declaration of unity here or not, but I do think a formal declaration of ideological alignment could go a long way. In the same way that movements like the "Indy Web" are in effect ideological declarations, this would be similar.

Developing the ideological character of this emerging federated network would require a clear ideological declaration, one that plants a flag in the ground and says "rally here!". When these alt-internet movements did the same, people did rally, and they built cool and interesting things. I don't see why we, as a collective of ideological proletarians can't do the same.

Consider this:

  • The left community here on lemmy exists across many servers, as a result they are each different from one another, but represent a growing unity ideologically.
  • Tankie Tube is probably the only video service online that shares that same ideological character, and we can see what that is doing to the service! If there were an equivalent number of "tankietubes" in existence to ideologically aligned Lemmy instances, the costs for each individual might be less overall.
  • toots.matapacos.dog isn't the only left align space running mastodon, but how many of those spaces interact with each other, and how many of them exist as islands onto themselves?

Putting forth a declaration of values, ideals, grounded in a proletarian ideology allows for those existing services to connect with each other, even if it means finding themselves on a shared list of available resources. It allows them to look at those values and ideals and say "Yes, actually, me too!" and effectively opt-in through an alignment of those values.

[-] onoira@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Tankie Tube is probably the only video service online that shares that same ideological character

https://kolektiva.media/ is a kind of AnarchoTube.

https://kolektiva.social/

[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago

See, this is exactly why I had this idea floating around my head. I didn't know about this site.

[-] Cowbee@hexbear.net 5 points 3 days ago

Gotcha, thanks for laying this out!

[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago

Absolutely! Be sure to check back to this thread since the more questions I get the more this idea gets fleshed out.

[-] Cowbee@hexbear.net 3 points 3 days ago
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