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[-] SHBI7368@sh.itjust.works 140 points 3 weeks ago

god dam where they getting that

[-] femtek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 101 points 3 weeks ago
[-] tdawg@lemmy.world 36 points 3 weeks ago

If do contract work that's not even that much

[-] femtek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 3 weeks ago

True, then insurance and no time off or other benefits would suck.

[-] mcv@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 weeks ago

It's only "no time off" if that's what you want. It's time off whenever you want (and sometimes when you don't want).

[-] 418_im_a_teapot@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

Accurate. Source: 20 years solo.

[-] bus_factor@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Contract work is rarely direct deposit, though?

[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 3 weeks ago

US banking is weird. How would it be paid instead?

[-] bus_factor@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I've never hired a software consultant, but most of the time when I hire a company or person to do contract work like roofing, gardening or similar they prefer to be paid by check. Sometimes they accept credit cards, but usually not when the bill is over a certain amount, due to the cut going to the card company.

Furthermore, "Direct Deposit" is basically a special term used for people getting their wages or salary paid to their bank account, as opposed to receiving it by check or cash. Other types of bank-to-bank transfers have different names, like "wire transfer" or "ACH transfer".

Americans love overcomplicating things in general, and particularly love using overly specific and technical names for stuff. There's acronyms everywhere, and things are named after weird technicalities. Like nobody says "retirement account", they call it "401(k)", named after the paragraph in the law which defines it.

You find stuff like that everywhere if you look. Some of their coins don't even have a value printed on them, you just have to memorize how much they're worth.

[-] mcv@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago

In Europe (maybe also elsewhere outside the US?) nearly all transactions are simply direct bank transactions. Occasionally facilitated through some app, but usually it's just your own bank's app. Nobody has used checks for decades, and the only reason we're using credit cards is because the US keeps forcing them on us.

[-] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 3 points 3 weeks ago

You just have to memorize the coins

Plus they are not even logically ordered by size or anything.

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[-] tyler@programming.dev 21 points 3 weeks ago

Nah, that’s a normal paycheck for a medium level engineer in any American big city.

[-] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 weeks ago
[-] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 6 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah that’s a very big monthly pay

[-] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

$150,000/yr (yes big, less than median for software engineers in the US) is $2k/week, $8k/month

Edit: $2k/week after taxes because direct deposit is the context of this discussion

[-] kiagam@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

8k/month is 96k/year. Just multiply by 12

[-] brave_lemmywinks@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

How dare you question his math?! He gets paid 96k /150k for that!

[-] baines@lemmy.cafe 4 points 3 weeks ago

this is about a deposit so it’s take home

401k etc makes this fuzzy

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[-] bus_factor@lemmy.world 60 points 3 weeks ago

That's not that outrageous as a higher-level IC in a big tech company in a big city. But if you're that senior you're not questioning why you became an engineer.

[-] otterpop@lemmy.world 58 points 3 weeks ago

There's a reason the typical dev career pipeline ends at farmer. People get tired of all the bs and leave never to be seen again.

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[-] tyler@programming.dev 35 points 3 weeks ago

I mean, you definitely do. I know numerous people that dropped the field entirely (including me) even though the pay is ridiculous.

[-] Gonzako@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago
[-] tyler@programming.dev 26 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Gonzako@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Same ballpark yeah

[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago
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[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 9 points 3 weeks ago

Sometimes it is just a really intense garden.

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

I also left, the industry is toxic right now. Circus for me

[-] bus_factor@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Oh, you definitely wonder how long you can keep up with the corpo bullshit, but that wasn't the vibe I was getting from the first panel. That was giving me more of a "junior engineer who can't get something to work" vibe.

I've traded half my pay for more fulfilling work and less corpo bullshit before, but I didn't quit engineering. I see some people dreaming about leaving it all behind and buying a farm, but what they all had in common was zero farming experience. The grass is always greener and all that.

[-] BartyDeCanter@piefed.social 53 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Eh, that looks like typical take home for a staff level engineer in a big city.

Edit: Assuming they get paid every two weeks, that’s an annual take home of $161,122. Depending on state taxes, insurance coverage, 401k contributions, dependents, etc, that’s a base salary of $200-250k. Which, yeah, that’s what I budget for a staff salary.

[-] Bananskal@nord.pub 11 points 3 weeks ago

$161,122

Heck, I'd be pulling more than that if I were a self-employed consultant rather than under a consulting firm, in our small city in northern Scandinavia.

Now I'm raking in a little below that, and I'm taking out like a third of it as actual salary and saving the rest, to avoid high taxes, and to to pay for a leased car, pension saving, extra insurance etc, before taxes. But after all that I'm probably saving $3k every month tax free, and maybe $1,5k in my bank account.

Engineering life is pretty okay. Still can't afford a house yet though. Thanks boomers.

[-] glitches_brew@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Key phrase is "big city". I'm a staff and there's a mid on my team that moved to Seattle. His cost of living adjustment when he moved allows him to make more than I do.

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[-] idunnololz@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

I think for a SF based company 200 - 250k salary is typical for even a senior engineer.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Monthly it's about what I'd expect for a low-medium experience engineer. But I'm an industrial engineer not software.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Wakmrow@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

Lol they are not

[-] AnotherMadHatter@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

Mechanical Engineer (union) with 20 years experience, slightly underpaid at $76.33/hr in (just north of the) Seattle area.

[-] bus_factor@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

It doesn't say it's salary. A lot of companies pay out bonuses right around now.

That's on the high end, but not so high it's uncommon, for a salary paid biweekly to a senior engineer.

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[-] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

If that's monthly pay, that's at or below average.

If that's bi-weekly......fuck I need to up my engineering game.

In the US...

Different in other parts of the world, even in Europe this is a high salary (but it reminds me to still ask for a raise...)

[-] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

That's because in Europe you have basic human rights like healthcare or the ability to not work while you're sick.

[-] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

California. It goes with high cost of living.

[-] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago

If you can add AI to your title somehow, that might even be midrange. I was talking to someone who has not been doing this long pushing pretty close to a half million dollar salary and then bonuses on top.

[-] socsa@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

After taxes that's like 300k salary.

[-] ramble81@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 weeks ago

Closer to $200-$250K depending on how much you withhold for 401k.

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