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PieFedeology - Ideological Purity in PieFed
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this post was submitted on 08 May 2026
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Oh they could have asked, could they? Like you asked before spreading disinfo about our instance using GenAI for moderation?
Are we supposed to bring back the whole history every time Rimu comments anywhere?
Now, listen, db0: we've discussed a lot in the past, you know I like what you do, I support you and your instance most of the time. But that's also true for Rimu and Piefed. I think it's pointless to try to count points and see who was wrong when by how much. From my perspective, there were issues from all sides during that whole story.
Bringing it up every time anyone involved comments somewhere doesn't seem relevant, and will just start another round of "you were wrong", "I was wrong because you were wrong" etc. It can be endless, and most of the people are tired of that whole story.
Take care.
Also:
We have bent over backwards to de-escalate the situation, both with L.W. and with Rimu. Our admins have stepped down. People changed their usernames. Our admins overruled our mods. Literally creating tension within our instance to maintain relations with the larger fediverse. On the other hand, rimu's deliberate disinfo is still up to this day, without any statements from our team, or correction to their blatant lies. They've even blocked people calling them out, so piefed users can't see this criticism. So don't try to "both sides" me.
Stop making concessions to them
When he's being hypocritical AF about people "could have just asked", then yes I think I will.
Talk about underplaying the situation...
Rimu spread purposeful disinfo. He never "just asked". He ignored comments from our admins explicitly telling him he's wrong, because it went against his narrative. Was purposefully uncharitable so he could spin it as badly as possible. Crossposted to Mastodon in an attempt to initiate a pile-on. I could go on...
Idk, sounds to me like you're equally ignoring comments from other parties telling you you're wrong because it goes against your narrative too. "We investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing" is hardly an argument.
That's why this is a slugfest: "You're wrong! "No, you're wrong!" "No, we told you you're wrong!" "Your telling me that I was wrong was also wrong!"
Reasserting conflicting claims like they're facts isn't worth jack shit.
Except they acted accountably and made efforts to fix the other sides grievances even if they didn’t agree.
Something that has not been returned and has only been met with increasing hostility.
I admit I don't know the whole story. I don't know what evidence was produced to support the LLM claim and what efforts were made.
The few comments I read here seemed like some attempt to reconcile were made but fell apart. I can't and don't want to point fingers one way or the other, personal bias notwithstanding.
I just wanted to point out "he said something even though we said it's wrong" isn't a particularly strong argument. That's just one party's word against the other's.
If you're going for the whole history don't forget the nazi smear by some german troll and rimu trying to paint db0 as uniquely ban-happy. Like this has been a busy 10 days or so with shots fired on the FAF day-after-day, this is not history yet but an ongoing barrage from their POV. Also
there was no LLM moderation, and rimu knew this before making his post^[https://lem.lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/42212552/20361800]
Yes, until he fucking relents.
Rimu started shit and he needs to make amends.
Until Rimu stops acting like this and learns better, yeah.
Plus there's rimu trying to tie lemmy as right wing (to maga and 4chan clones) because they used it as a platform...
Actually rimu is perfect fit with the lemmy.world admins and mods. Try to do the but are just incredibly terrible at messaging.
Yes, it's very important to remind people what sort of a troll Rimu really is.
The omissions in this timeline about brigading sockpuppets and falsified nazi smears...
But to list that timeline and act as though this is out of context or unrelated to an ongoing crashout... we are reaching some Hasan's dog collar level of bullshit.
You think defederating because they call for death upon Zionists is a win?