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I find this move concerning, and wish that the Founder had looked for a new CEO that shared his values rather than a Private Equity and Mergers Expert.

Furthermore, the change to the GRIT motto is worrying. Trust is useless without Transparency when it comes to code and security.

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[-] one_old_coder@piefed.social 27 points 1 week ago

Is it that time when I say "oh shit!" and starts to look at alternatives? I've seen this scenario a hundred times already and I'm tired.

[-] Godort@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago

I don't have the patience to switch to alternatives until they make a change that actually affects the usability of the tool.

This is absolutely a red flag though.

[-] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago

Just FYI, you can export your Bitwarden database to plain text and import that with KeePassXC

[-] alakey@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago

All the attachments, though... man this is going to be such a pain :/

[-] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

Same question here. What are the best alternatives?

[-] zikzak025@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

KeePassXC is the best FOSS option, but you'll need to figure out self hosting if you want to sync the database between devices.

[-] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 4 points 1 week ago

or use syncthing, no hosting experience required

[-] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

Syncthing on the phone seems to use up a lot of battery, though.

[-] M1k3y@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 week ago

As the database is encrypted in your device, you dont really need to self host. A keepass database in the Google cloud is not really problematic, although you should still choose a more private cloud provider.

[-] meathappening@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

Syncthing is probably a simple fix.

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Assuming you have a degoogle'd phone. The syncthing-fork devs announced that they aren't going to certify for Google Play when that's made a requirement in a few months

[-] meathappening@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

Ugh, I forgot about this. Aren't you still going to be able to install apps from third-party marketplaces? I thought the plan was just that the phone was going to hassle you and require multiple hoops.

[-] punkibas@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

Yes, that's the plan

[-] scutiger@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

I think other apps will require ADB to install

[-] napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

After initial wait period of 24 hours, which is intolerably dumb, you don't need ADB.

[-] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

And you can use a keyfile separate from the database for even more security. If the database is backed up on Google Drive and the keyfile is saved on a USB or in a (non-Google) email somewhere for the rare times you add a new device, your passwords should be safe even from keyloggers or Google themselves.

[-] Programman4233@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

post-quantum encryption algs

I use the built in ftp sync option with any file explorer that makes an ftp server on my phone.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

It doesn't need to be complicated. I use syncthing to synch them. It's pretty trivial. You just tell it what folders to synch, between which devices, and it'll synch whenever it's running.

[-] jtrek@startrek.website 3 points 1 week ago

I use keepassxc. It does the job.

[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

KeePassXC + Syncthing to sync passwords across devices

[-] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[-] refract@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

But you still use the official BW client apps, correct?

Unless you forego usage of the clients and access Vaultwarden through the browser (removing accessibility and convenience especially on mobile), it is not an e2e replacement solution.

Are there any alternative FOSS clients/apps that work with Vaultwarden?

Edit: I see further down that the official client is open source, and would get forked in the event of any fuckery. So I'm sticking with Vaultwarden + Official client app approach for now.

[-] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 0 points 1 week ago

I just use the webapp UI and don't bother with the clients/extensions. Easy enough to just log in, copy/paste from there.

But yeah, the official client (and probably browser extension as well) would probably be forked if/when needed.

[-] napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

What about passkeys?

[-] xnx@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago

Alias vault seems the most feature complete and self hostable https://www.aliasvault.net/

[-] h54@programming.dev 0 points 1 week ago
[-] Joelk111@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I'm pretty sure that isn't self hostable.

[-] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 week ago

Sigh. This will be a huge pita. I have probably over 100 things saved into bitwarden. Where's a good foss alternative.

GabeN, please don't die before me.

[-] const_void@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

I’ve been pretty happy with Apple passwords

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago

Oh great. Let's go from an open client to a vendor closed-source lock-in.
Sometimes I am baffled by the polarity of Lemmy.
From Tryhard-only-libre-software type of users over A-bit-of-each users (but tending to sway towards (F)OSS application) over to this opinion/suggestion.

Wild.

[-] const_void@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

What? Is it frowned upon here to just use what works?

[-] blitzen@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Vendor lock in is an issue, true, but it's a different issue than the enshittification we're starting to see from Bitwarden. Also, apple passwords isn't "locked in" per se, as passwords aren't difficult to export.

Lately, I'm starting to feel like finding good software (often FOSS but not exclusively) is increasingly a hook for later increased monetization. The 'agreement' I had with Bitwarden was they provide a solid service, and (while not required) I pay the $10/year honor system fee. That's been upped to $20 now, and now they're appearing to move away from their core principles. I won't be paying for another year.

With Apple, the unspoken agreement is I "overpay" for my hardware, and they don't have incentive to monetize me otherwise. I'll admit, there are cracks forming in that agreement, but that's my read on it currently anyway, and I think probably the person to which you are replying to as well.

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