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Red Means No / 'That' CNC kink party Incident Log
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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.
AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)
This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.
[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]
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The Project Lawful glowfic has a whole subplot where the forces of Evil lure the protagonist into BDSM play where surprise! their partner really truly does not consent.
In this scenario, I think its inevitable that some prey will feel neglected and others will have their consent violated. Words and body language are the most powerful tools we have to understand another person, and its hard to remember the exact preferences of dozens of other people who you don't know very well. Responsible predators will err on the gentle side and others will make mistakes ("oh **** I thought you were Sally and Sally asked us to ...") or deliberately cross boundaries. I am glad that they make a list of incidents and policy responses but I would not recommend attending kink parties organized by Bay Area rationalists.
have you actually managed to read project lawful? because I'd like to know more about it but it is incredibly unreadable
what the fuck
I have read a few pages of the Project Lawful thread, but I follow the ways of my fathers and crib from TVTropes.[1]
This thread is summoning some complicated feelings from "what consenting adults do is their business" and "this is not my kind of fun" to "in theory they take some sensible precautions but these people are incompetent and/or bad."
[1] When did not having read the book stop a Usenet warrior from posting?
nobody at all should read it
but college hill risked her incredulity on one of their glowfics https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1957447689248882728.html
Fanboy voice The Teacher wants researchers to read it so they will damage their brains and be unable to build Unfriendly AI before his breeding program ramps up!
Every time I learn a new thing about Project Lawful, I am grateful that the glowfic format is so unfriendly and the prose so wretched that I caromed off within about a page.
I try again every couple of years to see if my fascination with terrible people and bad ideas has crossed into straight-up digital self-harm. Bounced off every time so far, so I think I'm okay!
i listened to some chalga/turbofolk again recently and found it tolerable, clearly showing my musical taste has decayed terribly in the past 15 years