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The incident log for the Red Means No CNC party that's popular in rat / postrat circles.

Highlights include 'non-negotiated' penetration and a woman being dropped on the floor so hard it gave her a concussion.

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[-] ivyastrix@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago
[-] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

i know i'm not the target audience but my god the drudgery of organising ethicalseeming orgies, and consensual rape parties in particular, makes me feel many feelings. something sisyphean but the boulder is made out of gender roles and power dynamics and the slope is made of ... libido? the rationalists might well be the people i trust the least in the world to deal with it.

[-] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

This does show that female rationalists can organize complicated events when they really want to. I don't think any of the male rationalists we talk about would be able, although there are probably a few people at Lighthaven whose names I don't know who could keep an office job that was not also their polycule.

[-] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I would be fascinated to hear from kinksters who have run similar events.

They are keen on controlling contact and fluid-borne infections, but don't talk about airborne infection control. Rationalists have a "COVID is over and RSV sounds like a Linux distro" party line which separates them from alienated nerds I know.

Events I attend which combine alcohol and a risky physical activity have a one-drink maximum, or once you drink alcohol no more playing for you, not a subjective "Don’t drink too much."

[-] blakestacey@awful.systems 9 points 20 hours ago

I've never been to such an event, let alone tried to organize one, but I've socially known various people who've done them (kink but not CNC, to my knowledge) and a few sex workers who did kink professionally, and my guess is that alcohol just would not be allowed. You don't do Jägerbombs before trying a climbing wall, and you don't bring a substance that impairs judgment and worsens coordination to your sex party, for goodness' sake.

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