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[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 9 points 5 days ago

No. Piracy cannot be applied to actions of a state agency.

[-] Mihies@programming.dev 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)
[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 8 points 5 days ago

Piracy by definition only applies to private entities.

[-] Mihies@programming.dev 1 points 5 days ago

Ok, how do we call it when a state does piracy?

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 3 points 5 days ago

We don’t, as it’s impossible for a state to commit piracy.

[-] Mihies@programming.dev 1 points 5 days ago

ie illegally according to international law seize a foreign ship in international waters and sell it's cargo for own profit. How do we call that? Not talking about this case.

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 2 points 5 days ago

Depends what the foreign ship was up to. Could be drug interdiction, sanctions enforcement, warfare etc.

[-] Mihies@programming.dev 1 points 5 days ago

Let's say transporting oil. Nothing illegal according to international laws.

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 2 points 5 days ago

Depends on the ship. You may remember an incident a few months ago where the US intercepted a tanker departing Venuzuela. The tanker was trying to evade sanctions by flying a false flag. This made it stateless and therefore it was within the rights of the US to sieze it and its cargo.

[-] Mihies@programming.dev 1 points 5 days ago

US to sieze it and its cargo.

Is it really? I get seizure and everything, but selling it - I guess that could be possible only if owner didn't pay a fine and wouldn't oppose it legally?

OTOH what'd happen if the ship is in order and it still happened that? Or just seizure and torture of its crew just like happened with Global Sumud Flotilla?

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 2 points 4 days ago

Getting off topic here. The actions of a state may not be lawful or justifiable, but they aren’t piracy.

[-] Mihies@programming.dev 1 points 4 days ago

Sure, but how do we call such actions? Just unlawful?

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 2 points 4 days ago

Mostly. In specific circumstances actions can be a cassus belli.

[-] Jiral@lemmy.org 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

A state can't do piracy itself, so nothing. Define your question in words that are not self contradictory.

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