Fears of peace talks with Putin rise amid US squabbling (thehill.com)

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[-] tomatopathe@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

It really isn't.

Russia has failed every single expectation. It is so bad, Ukraine sent an official thank you letter to Russia's Defense Minister Shoigu for being so corrupt and incompetent that it allowed Ukraine to defend itself.

[+] yogthos@lemmy.ml -6 points 2 years ago

That's obviously what you've convinced yourself of and I doubt there's anything that will change your mind until Ukraine ceases to exist as a country. Thanks to gullible westerners such as yourself countless thousands will die and millions will have their lives ruined in the process. One day you'll have to live with supporting continuation of this atrocity.

[-] tomatopathe@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

What I hear from you is "Ukrainians must submit to the will of Putin or die". As if they are children who don't get to decide for themselves.

Just like you see the Buryats, Dagestanis, Chechens, Tatars, and hundreds other peoples' crushed under Russians' bloodstained boots.

No fucking wonder every single nation occupied by Russia in the past centuries who managed to gain their freedom hates Russia's fucking guts.

YOU tankie morons won't change your mind until Russia ceases to exist, which, if Russia continues this stupid war, might come sooner than you think. Prigozhin wasn't the only opposition to Putin in the state.

[-] Stanley_Pain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

Tankies are hilarious. They think all these ex-soviet states have love for Russia.

They say that Putin was forced into this conflict by NATO/US shenanigans. So if we take that at face value it means that Putin fell for one the oldest political exploits in the world. Grand master strategist right there.

[-] tomatopathe@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Tankies sure are dumb as shoes. What's scary is you get the edgy communist ones and the crazy fat right ones, that somehow agree.

[+] yogthos@lemmy.ml -7 points 2 years ago

The sad part is that you don't even realize just how deranged you are.

[-] deft@ttrpg.network 2 points 2 years ago

sad part is that you are a shill

[-] tomatopathe@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

I'll believe you the day Russian leaders stop lying like they breathe.

[+] yogthos@lemmy.ml -6 points 2 years ago

Imagine thinking your leaders aren't doing the same. When this war ends hopefully you'll have the decency to do some retrospection and ask yourself how you ended up believing utter nonsense. I doubt it though, when the west gets involved in the next war, people like you are going to be cheering it on once again having learned absolutely nothing.

[-] tomatopathe@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Please, what nonsense?

I don't believe shit from any government. I will on the other hand be informed by history and diverse news orgs that aren't dictated to by the mafia like RT

And your not answering any of my points lol. All i'm getting from you is "imagine thinking Ukrainians shouldn't be Russian slaves! What an idiot!!"

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago

You haven't made any points, and you've made it abundantly clear that discussion with you is pointless. You'll see what actually happens soon enough, but enjoy being an insufferable piece of shit until then.

[-] tomatopathe@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

What fucking discussion?

"It's totally natural to invade a country, rape and torture its people, kidnap the children, destroy everything we can't have"? Get fucked.

You're shilling for a pile of immoral, barbaric thieves. While 25% of Russian citizens (mostly ethnic minorities of course) shit in a hole in the ground for lack of plumbing, Putin and his Mafia collect yachts and private jets. And you can't criticize, protest or complain or he'll have you killed.

Fuck Russia. Even my Russian friends agree - fuck Russia. I have both Ukranian and Russian colleagues, and they are friends because - get this - the Russians don't think the Ukranians should submit or die.

Hell, the Russian guys think Russia as it is is a shithole of epic shitness, and will never go back. Like 300,000 other expats since this war started, plus the 200,000 or so dead in Ukraine because Putin has a small penis or whatever.

Fuck. Russia. There is a reason every single ex USSR country that could, joined NATO as soon as they could. You are the idiot who can't see what's right in front of your face. Every ex "partner" wants nothing to do with that shithole. Even Belorus wanted out, it took the Russian army invading to force the Belorussians into slavery after Lukashenko lost his election and cheated, and plenty of them are now in Ukraine fighting Russia for their own freedom. Even Armenia now understands that Russia isn't a partner for shit.

You still think Russia is winning, you are that dense. "Kyiv in a week" has turned into ever-shrinking occupied territory and continued barbaric torture and bombing of civilians and now grain export infrastructure, because that's all Russia can do. The "2nd army in the world" lost 50% of its Airforce and Armour in a year (including several strategic bombers) plus its naval flagship, and a bunch of generals and senior colonels, and seen a mutiny which killed a bunch of pilots among others, against a military with barely an air force no Navy, and with one hand tied behind its back. Russia is getting fucked worse than in Afghanistan, and it will only get worse.