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[-] uniqueid198x@lemmy.dbzer0.com 65 points 1 year ago

I saw someone the other doy talk about the politics of guys like Musk and Thiel and say their politics were "genericaly liberal". Its a stance you can only hove when you don't pay attention. Their political affiliation is Billionare, and all Billionares act in a way to preserve and enhance their position.

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

Its a stance you can only hove when you don’t pay attention.

this is ironic

Neoliberalism is a kind of liberalism, and both (just like conservativism) serve capitalism (which serves billionaires).
So that person is not wrong (disclaimer - I don't know much about Thiel, but Musk absolutely played the liberal card for a long long time, and is only now letting his more "socially conservative" opinions, like transphobia or support of Russia, out).

https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/10/14/liberalism-and-fascism-partners-in-crime/

https://blacklikemao.medium.com/how-liberalism-helps-fascism-d4dbdcb199d9

https://truthout.org/articles/fascism-is-possible-not-in-spite-of-liberal-capitalism-but-because-of-it/

https://nyanarchist.wordpress.com/2019/01/23/scratch-a-liberal-a-fascist-bleeds-how-the-so-called-middle-class-has-enabled-oppression-for-centuries/

[-] unfreeradical@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Thiel and Musk are essentially both techno-utopian, which I would characterize as a nonconservative but still reactionary brand of neoliberalism. They offer no support for social traditions, but also none for social justice. They help entrench the status quo through spectacle and opportunism.

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Lmao, sometimes I wish I had the ignorance to claim Thiel was any kind of liberal

[-] Sharkwellington@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago

You've got balls of steel for wanting to piss off all the people in this world who could unperson you, in person. I salute your efforts and wish you the best with minimal future harassment.

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