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Good post, Madison Cawthorn
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Hope I don't get banned for this, but like can someone explain to me exactly why this shit is funny and there's no nuance around it? Like, you can mourn the Muslim lives lost due to American Imperialism AND mourn the lives of the people who had fuck all to do with any of that? Like the janitors in the building for example? Like I get it fuck the state but for it to be something people post about and laugh at all day long is hard for me to grock. What if it was your family that died?
I'm not trying to argue anything or get in a struggle session around it but like, I'm just surprised that I haven't really seen any kind of pushback or critique around making that big of a joke of this.
of course the actual lives lost in 9/11 was tragic, yes, but it is primarily funny (at least to me) because:
A. its been 22 years and most Americans act like it happened yesterday
B. We kinda had it coming (as a country, not saying the janitors or firefighters themselves did)
C. Most Americans will get red in the face if they hear you say or do something even mildly neutral about 9/11. I had a teacher once scream at me in the hallway because I, as a high school senior in 2012, was like "the 8:46 announcement that 'please take a moment of silence the first plane has struck the North Tower' and the 9:03 announcement 'please take a moment a silence the second plane has struck the South tower' are ridiculous and literally just trauma porn & what is worse is that most of the student body doesn't even have memories of 9/11" (the announcement shit was literally done like every 9/11 in my school district. Announcements for both planes striking the towers on the exact minute it happened as well as moments of silence during them. Every 9/11 was like this K-12 - ridiculous)
D. I am kinda super biased against 9/11 in general because I for years, being biracial, had people call me a terrorist because in my 95% white town I was the closest complexion to middle eastern they'd ever seen.
E. Uhhhh the War on Terror??
Your school had 9/11 roleplay?? Every year?? LMAO
Yes lol. Mind you school started at 7:45, so we'd literally be like an hour into first period and it'd just come over the intercom but every one of the 3 schools (and these were separate middle/high schools. So like X North Middle/X South Middle/X East Middle and X North High/X South High/X East High all under the same district) in my school district did this shit.
It was:
No idea whose idea it was but we did this every year from like 6th grade to 12th & it was never really talked about in the community at large lol. Half the time, teachers would either just continue teaching through the moments of silence or get really irate at students who didn't take it seriously. I experienced both over the years and senior year was when I was politically aware enough to realize how fucking stupid it was in general. Still one of those things though that is so clearly politically motivated that I didn't even get in trouble for saying what I said - just yelled at by a chud whose coffee breath is still stuck in my memory - they were that close to me, for like 30 minutes in the hallway about how 2,977 people died and how it was disrespectful to laugh & call the announcements and moments of silence ridiculous (even though most of my classmates, even those who weren't politically engaged or outright conservative, were of the same mind that it was pointless and dumb lol)
Even in the Murica manga no one stops to mourn the pentagon lol
That's really, really funny oh my god. At least your school district had the restraint to not force a moment of silence for the Pentagon too... or did they? 😂
To be honest this would be an incredible lesson one day, or even half day, in high school, once every 4 years or so.
Not just moments of silence though…I mean every kid circled around every television-cart they could find, watching the real-time footage. Do a phone-check, too. Most people didn’t have mobile internet in 2001 (I did…it was slow as hell on some Ericsson bar phone…had a headset for it that was also an FM radio tuner. Found it on eBay. I was a nerd. And still am.)
My high school still has teachers working at it that we’re teaching there in 2001. There’s even a few kids I went to school with teaching there now. I’m sure they could piece together a full-scale reenactment of the day from memory.
What lesson would kids gain from that which they don’t already know intuitively? Kids don’t need to be taught that senseless death is sad. The purpose of such an activity would be indoctrinating a sense of persecution in the citizens of the country with the most powerful military which has caused magnitudes more suffering than this individual event. Especially if you leave out the 20-year response by that same military to the event.
Kids can follow up that lesson with some Iraq war roleplay. One team of children gets to play as the US military and the other gets to be Iraqi civilians. They can finish the lesson once they play-execute Osama Bin Laden lol
Why would we want that? Or would it be to then talk about the horrific toll exacted on the world and how we, as a nation, deserved much worse?
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American churches should do nativity-style plays every year telling the story about 9/11. They could have little kids in fake beards and wigs playing Mohammed Atta and George Bush.