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The Amtrak conductor one is pretty bad.
https://apnews.com/article/ap-fact-check-biden-amtrak-e79af0cd7015ea3d559609817cceb144
AP FACT CHECK: Biden tale of Amtrak conductor doesn’t add up
From the article:
“I apologize because some have heard this,” Biden told a crowd Monday in New Jersey, starting up a story he has repeated in various forms at least five times, dating back to the 2020 campaign.
“I swear to God. True story,” he said Monday, for emphasis.
THE FACTS: The tale as Biden spins it is wrong. Negri could not have had that conversation because he was already deceased by the time Biden logged 1.2 million miles on Air Force Two.
It’s plausible that Biden logged 1.2 million train miles as vice president by early 2016, based on accounts around the time by Biden and David Lienemann, the vice president’s official photographer. But Negri had long retired as an Amtrak conductor, in 1993, and died in May 2014.
That honestly just seems like he got the guy’s name wrong. Like Angelo Negri and Arturo Nuncio were friends and he mixed them up. If he made the story up whole cloth, it’s definitely unnerving
5 times?
I'm sound of mind and I'm on the 1000th time of swapping Tuesday and Thursday in sentencess. Every time. Brains are weird.
9 times out of 10 if I try to name one of either Daniel Radcliffe or Elijah Wood, I'll name the wrong one by accident.
Well yeah, if you’re certain that the name you have is right, you’ll repeat it. He’s old and has been famously misspeaking his whole career.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/30/politics/fact-check-biden-amtrak-angelo-negri-miles-traveled/index.html
I noticed that reference in the other piece, but I don’t see why they think that from the quote they used. I used to commute a lot when my mom was dying =/= I only commuted when my mom was dying.
I just don’t see this as more likely to be made up than to have a misremembered detail. Do you think Biden invented it fully?
I don't know man, it's as bizarre as my dog staring at me when dropping a deuce. Why do it 5 times, and then boldly (after having it debunked after the third) "swear to God true story" on top?
This is what happens when politicians are allowed stay in office through old age. He probably thinks it’s true and it probably is 95% true, but the details got fuzzy
Context is everything man...even if EVERYTHING you point out was a deliberate lie, entirely made up, for personal and political gain, it still pales in comparison to the dangerous lies being told daily by EITHER of the other 2 guys he's likely to run against.
I'd almost rather they were all lies in this instance because keeping lies straight is a lot more cognitive burden than misremembering is...at least that would be evidence the lights were still on
I shared a small office every day for 2 years with a guy whose name I can't remember. I went to his wedding and traveled to New Mexico to meet up with him and his family once. I still can't remember his name half the time.
I mix up my girlfriend's friends' names ALL the time, and I've hung out with them on a regular basis for the last 5 years.
I'm only in my 40s, while Biden is in his 80s. I give leeway to the memories of people that old. Whether we should be electing people that old is a different argument (he's the same age as Trump), though.