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If you don't participate in this bit idea that makes you a big ol doodoo head (that's an ad homimen so you automatically win the argument)

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[-] rjs001@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 2 years ago

I always find it so funny when they call “whataboutism” a fallacy at all. They don’t even seem to know what a fallacy is and yet love the word

[-] roux@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 2 years ago

I was accused of using a straw man fallacy just last week on reddit because I said someone could go a single meal without eating animal protein and be perfectly fine.

I'm not keen on all the rhetorical fallacies that exist but simply retorting to an argument by screeching "XYZ FALLACY" is no way to live your life. And even if you successfully recognize that someone uses a fallacy, so what? That doesn't win an argument. Like, tell me why someone wouldn't be able to survive a meal without animal protein ffs.

[-] rjs001@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 2 years ago

People have no argument against veganism so they will always resort to accusing the opponent of a fallacy or of lying or of being a racist

[-] roux@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 years ago

It's the same energy as the reddit users that go all the way to /r/vegan just to post counterarguments on like any post or say shit like "steak tastes good" in order to own the vegoons. Then they immediately throw a hissy fit about vegans shoving their beliefs down their throat.

Like, I'm still a baby vegan or whatever, but even in the beforetimes, I saw a substantially greater number of non-vegans being aggressive towards vegans than the other way around. Like, we get it Chad, bacon is amazing, and you need cow titty juice because protein is super important to you and there is no other way you could get an adequate amount.

Sorry about the mini rant lol.

[-] rjs001@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago

I don’t know if I’m still considered a baby vegan since I’ve been vegan for 3.5 years now but I never notice these types in real life. Like even if I talk to Republican family members, none of them seem to be (openly) anti-vegan and I always think these types have to be very very very very terminally online

[-] roux@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago

I can agree they seem more online.

When I originally went vegetarian before going full vegan I got shitty comments from 2 if the people I told but that's anecdotal.

[-] rjs001@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago

I don't know how long ago you became vegan or vegetarian but my assumption is that this way of thinking (and acting) was more common at some point in the past

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

My main argument against veganism is I bet grassfed Nazis taste lovely

[-] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

And grassfed colonizers like the one racist who said "they can eat grass" when native people were starving, then he got killed and grass was shoved into his mouth when there was an anti colonial uprising.

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

The only problem I have with this is that Nazis don't even deserve to eat grass. If we must feed them, feed them the lowest quality corn leftovers possible.

[-] rjs001@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago

We should feed Nazis fiberglass insulation

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

Mmm glass grass

even if you successfully recognize that someone uses a fallacy, so what? That doesn't win an argument

Fallacy fallacy!!!

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