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If you don't participate in this bit idea that makes you a big ol doodoo head (that's an ad homimen so you automatically win the argument)

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[-] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

We can't do this on this post. It'll then spread to the whole site.

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago

Slippery slope you lose

[-] Budwig_v_1337hoven@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

Yea but that's just natural, so we should do it

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

Appeal to traditions you lose

[-] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

Damnit my slippery slope bit flopped deeper-sadness

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

Appeal to emotions, you lose

[-] quarrk@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

you lose

Sorry buckerino. That’s an argument from fallacy fallacy

[-] Budwig_v_1337hoven@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

No I got it, sorry if that wasn't clear
But I feel like my naturalistic fallacy bit flopped for real sadness-abysmal

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

Appeal to emotions you lose (I don't think I can keep this bit up how the heck do libs do it)

[-] Budwig_v_1337hoven@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

Argument from anecdote! Bulverism!

[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Getting opinions from sucking up the msm trash means spitting them back out is more of a pressure release than something they must struggle to maintain

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[-] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

that's a nice fallacy fallacy. you posted an insult not an ad hominem

[-] Finger@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

no more half measures walter

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

Full Measure fallacy, you lose

Double Measure fallacy my good gentlesir

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago
[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

EDIT : Wow! I didn't expect this to be my most upvoted comment!

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Edit: Thanks for giving reddit-logo money on my behalf kind stranger

[-] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

I am a secret lib the way I like the response, "that's a good point, but what's your bench press?"

[-] Budwig_v_1337hoven@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

I just wanna say post hog ergo propter hog

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago
[-] duderium@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

No true hexbear would do this.

[-] RNAi@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

That's actually what the redditors would like us to do

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

The real power move is telling them informal logical fallacies aren't real.

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[-] buckykat@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

Libs cannot understand the difference between ad hominem and an insult

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[-] rjs001@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 year ago

I always find it so funny when they call “whataboutism” a fallacy at all. They don’t even seem to know what a fallacy is and yet love the word

[-] roux@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 year ago

I was accused of using a straw man fallacy just last week on reddit because I said someone could go a single meal without eating animal protein and be perfectly fine.

I'm not keen on all the rhetorical fallacies that exist but simply retorting to an argument by screeching "XYZ FALLACY" is no way to live your life. And even if you successfully recognize that someone uses a fallacy, so what? That doesn't win an argument. Like, tell me why someone wouldn't be able to survive a meal without animal protein ffs.

[-] rjs001@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 year ago

People have no argument against veganism so they will always resort to accusing the opponent of a fallacy or of lying or of being a racist

[-] roux@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 year ago

It's the same energy as the reddit users that go all the way to /r/vegan just to post counterarguments on like any post or say shit like "steak tastes good" in order to own the vegoons. Then they immediately throw a hissy fit about vegans shoving their beliefs down their throat.

Like, I'm still a baby vegan or whatever, but even in the beforetimes, I saw a substantially greater number of non-vegans being aggressive towards vegans than the other way around. Like, we get it Chad, bacon is amazing, and you need cow titty juice because protein is super important to you and there is no other way you could get an adequate amount.

Sorry about the mini rant lol.

[-] rjs001@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago

I don’t know if I’m still considered a baby vegan since I’ve been vegan for 3.5 years now but I never notice these types in real life. Like even if I talk to Republican family members, none of them seem to be (openly) anti-vegan and I always think these types have to be very very very very terminally online

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[-] kristina@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My main argument against veganism is I bet grassfed Nazis taste lovely

[-] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

And grassfed colonizers like the one racist who said "they can eat grass" when native people were starving, then he got killed and grass was shoved into his mouth when there was an anti colonial uprising.

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even if you successfully recognize that someone uses a fallacy, so what? That doesn't win an argument

Fallacy fallacy!!!

The true essence of reddit-logo posting is to be as nerdily condescending as possible while offering literally no information. Bonus points for being casually wrong and making statements which can be ambiguously be taken as earnest or as facetious depending on what kind of response they get. Like so:

Something about your use of the word “fallacy” tells me that you are under the delusion that we live in a pre-Wittgenstein world. However, I am not a child and therefore have no interest in playing word games with you. Feel free to respond when you’ve gained the skill to frame your argument in such a way that it does not waste our time.

I got chills. This is really good

[-] AbbysMuscles@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

Additionally, if anyone calls out a fallacy using its Latin name, bully them for being even more insufferable nerds for using Latin.

[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Uhh excuse me it's post hog poster ergo hog

[-] raven@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

What is latin for when you make them the wojak-nooo?

[-] a_blanqui_slate@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The concept of an 'informal fallacy' and its consequences have been a disaster for the human discourse.

[-] Antiwork@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

I will not allow this post to gaslight me

[-] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

I need to remember this. I just wasted whole minutes of my life arguing with a ~~Nazi~~ ~~lib~~ Nazi about the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact

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