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  • poor leftists talk about poverty, labor aristocrats get uncomfortable and insist that sociological classes aren't materialist. "all that matters is that we're working class - we're all in this together"

  • black leftists talk about racism, whites get uncomfortable and insist that they're not personally part of the problem. "we mustn't allow the bourgeois to divide the proletariat along racial lines - we're all in this together"

  • female leftists talk about patriarchy, men get uncomfortable and insist that it hurts them too. "this men vs women stuff is reductive anyway - we're all in this together"

  • third world leftists talk about imperialism, americoids get uncomfortable and insist that red white and blue lives matter too. "what happened to the international working class - we're all in this together"

you don't have to invite yourself to every form and experience of oppression. anyone with a baby's consciousness of intersectionality ought to be capable of admitting when they have privilege

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[-] ped_xing@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Kicking a lot of mentally ill people out onto the streets was an atrocity, no argument from me there.

I'm arguing that Hotel California being about mental hospitals doesn't make sense. There are so many lines that run counter to that interpretation:

There she stood in the doorway

The . . . intake nurse?

Her mind is Tiffany-twisted/She got the Mercedes Benz

Even if the staff can afford some luxuries, it doesn't seem like something they'd discuss with a patient.

They livin' it up at the Hotel California

Said nobody about an inpatient mental health facility ever

Mirrors on the ceiling/The pink champagne on ice

A hazard and contraband that would be immediately removed

And the part that might work,

You can check out any time you like/But you can never leave

really only half works. The "never leave" part works, sure, it was involuntary hospitalization, but how can you explain "check out any time you like?" Letting patients fake a check-out just seems like torture.

[-] TankieCatgirl@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

I always thought it was about drug addiction, specifically in the music industry, which lines up a bit more with the things you pointed out imo. And I heard that checking out was a euphemism for suicide.

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