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okay i bite ... give me the run down on the Stalinist betraying the Spanish Revolution (actually the elected goverment) .. can you contrast it to the support that the great (oh the flag is so sexy) Spanish republic got by all these other "republics" .. Standing "as proud as Liberals do " against Fascism...
Just read the book: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/george-orwell-homage-to-catalonia
But Stalin sided with the liberals because he said Spain isn't in the position for a revolution. The anarchosyndicalists weren't too happy about it. According to Orwell at least, there sure are different views on the story.
On lemmygrad I've been downvoted into oblivion (with a different account) for explaining basic facts about anarchism. Here I'm called a liberal and get comments deleted for insisting that today's Ukraine isn't nazi Germany. Lemmy is wild.
Stalin is the only person in the world that actually sent weapons and military advisors to Spain to fight the fascists, what the fuck are you even talking about?
yes but he didn't send the whole red army so therefore he is basically hitler now
You know that you currently trying to give me "Homage to catalonia " is evidenz of your victimhood of propganda , in School they forces animalfarm on you ,then you pleadged loyalty to the flag as Free People do.. , now you try to force Orwell onto me ..?
--> I will not read a book to find the argument you can not be assed to make but feel obliged to repeat .<--
General edvice : Dont trust Angloids , they belive propagnada only happens to other people and that they are a good force in the world.
While homage to Catalonia is a great book, it is not an accurate portrayal of the Anarchists actions in those days. It should be taken as only a personal experience of Anarchist Catalonia, not a political analysis. Even Beevor has a better overview.
I'm pretty sympathetic to them and the MLs are certainly open to criticism, but "hecka awesome anarchists stomped on by Stalinists trying to reverse the revolution" is not what happened. Orwell is so, so politically clueless here about a fraught and morally grey case of infighting, jockeying for power and coup attempts by all sides.
I mean he ended up with POUM ffs and then tried to switch to the MLs!