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[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago
[-] Grayox@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

Its like when someone uses human greed as a reason Communism wont work.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Funny how that someone is often the same who assumes humanity is flawless when libertarianism! Could it be that those people are just greedy and selfish hypocrites? Nah!

[-] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

They're pretty much similarly utopian but the neat thing is we can work towards both at the same time.

[-] iByteABit@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago

Which is a very uninformed (or intentionally misleading) thing to say, because Communism from it's very beginning has always assumed that there are bad actors and always will be, hence the whole dictatorship of the proletariat thing.

[-] Aqarius@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

That's, to put it mildly, not what that phrase means.

[-] iByteABit@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago
[-] Aqarius@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The idea (in theory) was that once the proleteriat seizes power, they would act akin to a dictator in ancient Rome, who would be given the extraordinary powers to handle extraordinary circumstances (such as, in this case, the (re)construction of society). It's not implying totalitarian rule.

[-] iByteABit@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

It's also the state power to oppress counter revolutionaries and the former high class, often through violence and forced labour. That to me is a form of dictatorship, even if it does provide better conditions and freedom to much more people than the newly oppressed.

I'm not saying it to praise it or condemn it, I just think it's a fact at this point.

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