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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

I'd imagine fash and their assorted boater kulak brethren are happy about the liberal wing of politics in the west getting nutty with European blood and soil fascism, right? Not to mention now groups like Azov and Right Sector are flush with guns and cash, should make for some fun in the future.

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[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

if you want to check the pulse on the worst of the worst fash, you have to go wading into cesspits like /pol/. Their take is typically that any time hegemonic liberalism embraces fascism it's some kind of ruse to make them feel accepted and put them back to sleep. We say the same stuff about when the liberal establishment makes overtures to us in the form of social democracy (or, more commonly, mere lip service to social democracy), but the important difference is that we're correct when we say that concessions are merely meant to lull us back to sleep, while they are not, and are underestimating precisely how much the bourgeoisie supports them.

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

we're correct when we say that concessions are merely meant to lull us back to sleep

I think that's often the effect, but not often the intent. Probably the biggest gesture to social democracy in the last generation was Obamacare, and I can't imagine it was meant to lull the left back to sleep because what passed for the left in the U.S. circa 2008 wasn't worth considering.

I look at it as "to what degree does this gesture open the door for more of the same"?

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