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God help them. The slaughter to come is probably beyond our imagining

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[-] GivingEuropeASpook@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

Uprising? I'm sorry, but the civilians in Gaza aren't doing any glorious uprising they're hiding from the barrage of Israeli rockets being launched that are leveling their city.

An uprising is not a coordinated military effort, and while I am on the side of the oppressed, i am not going to use a bunch of justifications to dismiss the trauma being inflicted on civilians because they had the gall to be born to parents who decided to move to occupied Palestine.

Sometimes I really wonder how many of you actually care about human life and how many of you care about evening the score.

[-] Staines@hexbear.net 56 points 1 year ago

Israel has never needed an excuse to maim people and destroy their homes.

Human life can go back to normal once the settlers go home.

[-] GivingEuropeASpook@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Israel has never needed an excuse to maim people and destroy their homes

Okay but the problem is that maiming people and destroying their homes is wrong, and that Israel has a disproportionate amount of power in order to do so on a far larger scale.

go home

To where? What about the ones who are born in Israel and grew up there? What is it that you actually expect to happen to Israeli civilians, and why do you believe that historical injustice is an excuse to inflict more harm?

[-] TraumaDumpling@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

its not historical injustice, it is current injustice. the IDF has been consistently murdering Palestinians for years, to this day.

send them back to fucking europe obviously, or do you think continuing a genocide because muh history is ok or something? europe can afford to build them housing lmao, they created this problem in the first place.

[-] Staines@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

Okay but the problem is that maiming people and destroying their homes is wrong, and that Israel has a disproportionate amount of power in order to do so on a far larger scale.

The people of Palestine are seemingly stronger willed than you.

To where? What about the ones who are born in Israel and grew up there? What is it that you actually expect to happen to Israeli civilians, and why do you believe that historical injustice is an excuse to inflict more harm?

Our opinions on that don't matter.

[-] charly4994@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

You see the exact same arguments that you're making when it comes to landback movements. Where do all the settler colonists go? In states like the US or Canada they've just been far more deeply entrenched with hundreds of years of oppression. You have people crying about if we do landback that the native populations will genocide all settler colonists. We're watching the equivalent of the indigenous uprisings in the the Americas happen across the globe in real time as the Israel settler-colonial state is still in the genocide portion of their settler-colonialism. The US doesn't need to have dirty genocides anymore since it's already been done, they get the cleaner genocide of keeping native populations poor and desperate. Would you say that the indigenous peoples of the Americas shouldn't've fought back when they were being destroyed? That killing civilians is a bad thing when those civilians were actively destroying them by not only stealing their homes but by also supporting the absolute devastation of an entire nation while dehumanizing them all?

Just because the genocidal state of Israel can do far worse back should mean that they just lie down and get crushed to death? They have every right to stand up and defend themselves from a regime that has and will continue to destroy them. The ones born there could take up arms and join the Palestinians to fight for their freedom and live in a unified state. Jewish people lived in Palestine before, they can still. The issue is that with a settler colonial state enacting genocide there's only one option for the oppressed, and it's to violently resist because all other avenues have no effect on stopping them.

[-] rjs001@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago

The settlers need to be arrested and put to labor if they chose to go there and contribute to it and for the ones that are children or couldn’t leave due to economic reasons should be deported to Europe

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