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I feel like I’m actually going insane
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yeah i dont know any poc personally supporting Israel and all the mayos ive explained things to, quickly give tentative support to Palestine. To be fair ive never had a productive conversation with a jewish person who wasnt already a communist, but maybe thats just not in my wheelhouse (i dont do well with people making purely emotional arguments, i just kinda shut down especially when people just start crying or spewing insults) , plus im trying to take a break from talking politics to white people but people keep reaching out to me to ask questions. its exhausting and feels pointless, but ive convinced/ further educated like 4 people this week.
I feel like I've met maybe one Jewish person IRL who wasn't pro Palestinian liberation. Even the Israeli dude I worked with wanted to vote out Netanyahu and work towards two states, which is admittedly liberal but like, a massive improvement over the status quo.
Me too, I've only ever known one Jewish family that was plainly Zionist, all the others (families and individuals) were either not really discussing the issue or fervently pro-Palestine.
I’m a Jew who knows lots of Jews, we either don’t discuss Israel or are pro-Palestine. I’ve only met one Jew who is pro-Israel. She coincidentally has like an entire media/nonprofit career lined up for her basically. For some people at least all you need to do is sell your soul and the fame and money will flow.
thats very cool! i wish i had similar experiences. tbf i do live in a very conservative place. maybe its just not my conversation to have, or maybe im bad at it idk, its almost always devolved into crying or insults or just shutting down the conversation. edit: to be clear i just say things like " no, i dont think Israel should exist, it should be Palestine" and then people freak out! I really dont know how to water it down more. most Jewish people I know are communist/ anarchist though, very based group of people generally, just not at my school or work.
If you say "it should just be palestine," normies have been taught to interprets that as "I support ethnic cleansing of Jews."
ok, got it! ill keep working on my approach
It's an uphill fight and a dangerous one, too.
I've rarely seen people around me this bloodthirsty before now, not since 9/11 anyway.
yeah ive been threatened for my beliefs in the past, but this is the first time i think someone may actually try to kill me for them if i say it to the wrong person. never gonna be silenced though, death is better than silence. stay safe.
You too.
Keep those bodycams charged
honestly i should have been had a dash cam.
I really should be adding a qualifier of “White Americans” more often when I make generalizations about “Americans” loving genocide, being ignorant about the world, holding their own uninformed opinions to be gospel truth, etc.
I’m very critical of Evangelical Christianity but even there White Evangelical Christianity and Black Evangelical Christianity are almost like two different religions in many ways.
most black people opposed the war in Iraq from the start!! and vietnam!!!
made me think of this
—Muhammad Ali
i love him so much. although i also like the fictionalized quote as well, very succinct. how do we not have a Muhammad Ali emote?
We need a word we can throw around that stands generally for white, cis-het, global north, middle class wealth, etc. attitudes. WASP is close.
Call em crackers
Another great option!
Though as a yt myself it might come off a little sus.