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Why are 90% of the images WebP format?
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this post was submitted on 11 Oct 2023
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Why do you need to convert to jpg?
A lot of apps don't support webp yet. Facebook Messenger is a good example. If I want to share a meme that was webp it says "GIF" in the gallery and says it can't upload images in that format.
So sad that the poor management at Meta can't find the money to add webp support to one of the most used chatting apps in the world 🥺
They still haven't managed to find a way they could make $$$ out of supporting WebP.
Wanna hear something funny? So iirc webp is a Google format. The other day I was preparing slides for class with my friends. Anyway, we were on Google slides. I tried to upload this image, but it says it's unsupported. So i checked the format and whaddaya know? webp. So a Google service doesn't even support a Google file format. LOL
I've literally only run into 1 program that couldn't handle webp and that was a FOMOD creation tool for Bethesda game modding, and even then it worked but just tossed an unknown extension error
Though if you're using Facebook messenger that's probably the issue right there lol
Windows doesn't let you set them as background photos
I haven't used a static wallpaper in so long I'd completely forgotten Windows normally handles that lol
What software do you use for that?
Wallpaper Engine, I have like 15 animated wallpapers that it cycles through and had totally forgotten about it cuz it's been like 4 years since I set it up
Works great
That’s not how conversion works.
Honestly this does sound like some goofy Windows feature lol
You can ‘change’ the extension of any file whose innards match the file type you’re ‘changing’ it to.
Under the hood, nothing changes. Windows opens it anyway because it reads the actual file data and basically assumes you must be an idiot.
e: change the file extension of a jpg to txt. Windows shrugs and says okay, if that’s what you really want, and shows you the code. Knock yourself out, it says, I’ll show you what I can, but it doesn’t convert the file.
No it doesn’t.
This may be hard to understand if you don’t know how it works, but nothing is being converted. It’s like opening a .docx in a .txt editor. It will show you the data it can, and there’s lots of crossover in image formats.
Sorry, I can’t explain it better without getting more technical than you can probably understand, but it’s not converting anything.
Sorry, I didn’t mean to be condescending. Glad it made you laugh, tho.
I’m only trying to educate because most people seem to think everything should be a jpg or think it’s all magic (this thread is full of that), and this is one of the few topics I know quite a lot about.
Didn’t mean to offend.
e: rereading my last comment, I see what you mean. What I meant was it takes understanding of several scientific papers detailing the algorithms (which took me a bit to understand), and I can’t easily condense that into a comment online. Sorry for how that came across.
I don’t miss Reddit. XD
You shouldn’t have to care, honestly. It should just work.
I had to learn all this because I was chief designer for one of the main companies that came up with these formats, but nobody else should have to care about this shit. The fact that this is a post in 2023* makes me feel like we’ve failed.
You shouldn’t even have to think about this.
No, everyone knows these formats, just not what they’re for. Like people use jpg for everything when they should be using png. Like in this entire discussion.
Okay, inasmuch as everyone in this thread not understanding the difference between png and jpg is a marketing problem.
Instead of thinking it’s a user issue, it should be up to developers to make sure the user doesn’t have to care. I promise they won’t either way.
It’s a development problem.
e: extra word
Right. We agree that’s a rather gruelling experience you shouldn’t have had to have in an ideal world.
I’m saying that’s a problem that can and should be solved by the technology itself. Future users shouldn’t even have to think about that, and I say that from the position of knowing far too much about it.
It’s absolutely exhausting, as a user, to have to keep that level of knowledge current every several years for decades, and there’s no reason we should have to anymore. The technology is advanced enough to take more burdens off its users.
Sorry for the rant, but the image format debate exemplifies this.
Perhaps. This isn’t the best forum for this, either.
Rule of thumb: save as png.
Just a few weeks ago, they found a big security flaw in webp and webm. Which affected nearly all programs using it, because they all use the same library.
Webp and webm are simply not mature enough for professional use.
That's a library bug, not a format bug
Web images should be converted to png, then, never jpg (unless they’re actual photos).
I don't see a reason to convert to jpg even for photos. Its advantages are related to the way compression artifacts looked more natural than the compression artifacts of contemporary formats. Why save as a format that's prone to obvious compression artifacts at all anymore?
Depends if you are aiming for best quality for a given file size, or if you don't care how big the file is.
Jpg has some advantages with photos, because it takes advantage of pixel fuzzing which isn’t visually noticeable in photos and can contribute greatly to higher compression.
It’s objectively terrible for everything else, though (because of the pixel fuzzing).
They are too old already, lol