497
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 12 Oct 2023
497 points (98.8% liked)
News
23311 readers
1167 users here now
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
At least it wasn't communist. As you can see from the other poster, communists are inherently violent and anti-lgbtq
Same can be said about fascism. Or capitalism. Look at how many people want to remove rights of lgbtq in americs. Look how the nazis treated homosexuals (and communists)
I mean, fascism is just an umbrella term for communism, nazism etc. Capitalism really is just the existence of money in terms of servicing transactions, something that has brought immense value to the world. How lemmy looks at issues like police brutality and concludes 'welp thats capitalism" is honestly kinda weird. Thought it was a joke at first but now I'm not that sure.
Bad troll or just completely politically and economically ignorant?
I'm just really into history.
And historically, every single communist regime proves the horseshoe theory, it's not my fault.
You said fascism is an umbrella term for communism so no, you are not really into history. Probably the farthest from it if you are that moratorium.
You disagree with me based on emotional responses. In technicalities and practice, communism is a form of fascism.
I can't of course change the opinion of a person who's emotionally invested in violent ideology, but I want to sow the seed of the idea that killing lgbtq+ is not a good thing in your head. Think about it, will you?
No, I disagree with you because you are categorically wrong.
I agree that discrimination and killing the LGBTQ+ community is wrong. That is why I don't vote for conservatives who would love to see that happen.
Then stop supporting violent ideologies which depend on killing said minorities.
Good start but push through some more aight.
I do not support violent ideologies like fascism. I am also educated enough to recognize that fascism and communism are not the same. Although that is not a high bar to beat and somehow you failed to do that...
Sure they just act all the same. Good definition there!
Why do commies need to have their hand held even on the simplest of explanations? Pathetic really. Go and channel that anger you have on homosexuals online or something, come back with a clear head ye
You are making zero sense. What communists are you even talking about? Considering you are advocating anger towards the gay community, you seem to also fall under the category of bigot. Go back to your hole, bigot.
No, no, we disagree with you because you fail to comprehend literal words, with literal definitions, which we would even require to start to explain these concepts to you. You are a lost cause, your opinion is irrelevant. You failed the first day of history, and economics lol.
Ok sure. Lets say communists are not fascists. They just so happen to act like fascists. Fruitful conversation.
You don't think that has anything to do with the trillions of dollars America has spent over the last century trying to fight communism lol?
"sorry comrade I camped those homosexuals but you see, the americans spent trillions last century trying to stop us from camping the said minorities so it's justified"
Sentences said by the entirely deranged.
Literally the dumbest shit I've ever read lmfao
Ok?
Okay. I'm glad that you acknowledge how utterly retarded what you have said here is. Sorry to anyone sensitive to that word.
Am I really supposed to be surprised that someone who's emotionally invested into a violent ideology acts violent when that ideology is questioned?
Of course they think I'm "retarded", but they support an ideology that wants to kill them.
"They had the right colour uniform on when they carried out the mass murder, and that makes it better" <- how you come across.
I don't care how I come across to a violent conservative. I'm right, have not been proven wrong and absolutely mopping the floor with fascists atm.
Brigading, purposeful misunderstanding and enraged lashouts from you guys is only expected
I'm neither violent or a conservative, nor will your ongoing attempt to justify mass murder make it so. For someone who keeps calling people fascists, you're the only one in this thread supporting a far-right extremist authoritarian, mass-murdering dictator.
Better than the guy who refutably would have killed more :)
"Better mass murder than the fiction I invented in my head" is the comeback you think it is. All it underlines is that you're doubling back on the support of violence and destruction of democracy when it fits your extremist ideology.
If the reality of communist genocides is "in my head" I've got a sound head tbh, thank you.
Allende didn't carry out any mass murder. Pinochet did. Hence your purported "knowledge" about what Allende might have done had your preferred mass murderer not taken power is only in your head.
Trying to set up strawmen by pointing to entirely different regimes that nobody in this thread have expressed support for does not change the fact that you're still the only one here repeatedly arguing in favor of someone who actually carried out mass murder.
Already addressed this
You've only "addressed this" by repeating your imaginary scenario of thought crime as justification for arguing that bringing mass murderer into power was right, just like the supporters of every brutal dictator in history though their favourite mass murderer did what they needed to as well.
It's not actually "addressing" anything - all you've done is doubling down on trying to justify actual, real murders that happen with your fear of something hypothetical. This irrational fear of hypothetical harm and willingness to preemptively harm the other first, driven by a relentless bloodlust lies at the core of the fascist psyche.