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Lmao yeah they "found" the big super evil battle plans on a random corpse, all cleanly printed on A4 paper with maps and details and everything
You know how we send all our soldiers out with their orders in the form of unencrypted sheets of paper they got folded up in their pockets? Just in case they forget the plan?
"What was I doing here?" pulls out Big Evil Secret Plan "Oh yeah, attack the school and kill civilians! How could I forget?"
Anyone who believes this shit needs to stay home next election day
It just seems fishy. If this BESP has information that Israel can act on to prevent further attacks, shouldn't they keep it quiet so Hamas doesn't know they have to update their plans?
I don't believe a damn word I read about this whole situation. It's too much coverage for a relatively small conflict. Where's the day-by-day play-by-play of the goings-on in Myanmar? Their civil war has had more casualties in the last two years than the Israel-Palestine conflict has ever. But much like the Russo-Ukraine conflict, it's too easy for us to point at one side and say they're the bad guys, so our news doesn't care. What generates ad revenue is [side you don't like but your parents do] committing war crimes, and [side you don't like but your children do] committing even worse war crimes! It doesn't matter if literally any of it is substantiated, if we can turn families against each other, they'll click on whatever we have to say, and they'll believe it.
Yeah dude military personnel use maps during operations. Also these terrorists did actually attack and kill civilians. It was transparently their goal and they did it proudly.
Sorry not everything is a conspiracy. Sometimes authoritarian and antisemitic government leaders commit wanton acts of terrorism to incite extreme violence against their own people. Crazy world we live in. Do try to get better.
https://www.armystudyguide.com/content/army_board_study_guide_topics/land_navigation_map_reading/different-types-of-maps-e.shtml
I'm well aware that militaries use maps, and that the plans laid out in this clean piece of paper fit right in with Hamas' actions. I'm skeptical that they would need a lil MapQuest printout and list of instructions to remember that they're supposed to go to this building and kill a bunch of people. Seems like that would be easy enough to just remember.
If you're going to attack a village you've never been in, you're leaving the map at home?
I both think it's plausible but weird. Doesn't seem like something you'd need to write down.
"Hey, what were we supposed to be doing here again?"
I can't even remember the last time I used a public bathroom in a developed country that did not have a sign reminding me to wash my hands.
This has precedent, remember the time they found Arabic flight manuals in the abandoned cars of the 9/11 perpetrators? Similarly these fighters had written notes on them in case they forgot what they were up to on the way there.
Porsche?
Sure. Fuck Hamas. They don't need a damn piece of paper to remind them that their goal is simply to kill people.
If you're envisioning a sloppily torn scrap of paper with "KILL EVERY1" scrawled on it with crayon, I could see where you're coming from, but paper battle maps with points of interest/focus being used by a pretty primitive (comparable to who they're up against) fighting force makes more sense, though.
If this was planned so tightly that they didn't let the bulk of their fighters (or large swaths of lower rung leadership) know details until days (or less) before the attack, then it stands to reason they'd hand out infosheets. That seems to be what happened here.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/how-israel-was-duped-hamas-planned-devastating-assault-2023-10-08/
I understand that sometimes the military use potent drugs to enhance fighters performance - could be that written simple commands served as grounding script for someone who's on a deadly mission? "I'm extremely high, energy is busting, hard to concentrate... what am I doing here at all? Oh, here's a page that I've been shown hundreds of times last week's, right!"
Don't know if that's the case here, of course...
People out here are so easy to manipulate, it's friggin' hilarious. No wonder stuff like QAnon exists.
Hamas fighters probably had their instructions taped to their forehead so that when they look at each other they remember what they're there for. "Habibi! I totally forgot why we're here! Look me right quick so I can remember.... Oh right. Kill the children. Got it."
They are islamist terrorists ffs. Do you remember ISIS? Do you think they needed instructions to kill civilians?
You completely misinterpreted what I said lol I'm agreeing with you.
If that was your try at sarcasm, it kind of missed the mark just a tad....
I mean, if you ignore the first sentence, there's not much I can do to help you ...
Mhm sure