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There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update is here.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 44 points 1 year ago

Are they actually buying their own propaganda that we have super soldiers or something???

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

Only possibility I can think of is that if hostages are kept anywhere near the coast then a quiet insertion at night from the water has a significant advantage just because of optics and night training they will have that hamas do not. Also the surprise element.

[-] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

Isn't this a Charlie Sheen movie? But it's Lebanon

[-] femboi@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

America kinda lost some surprise by announcing that they were considering this lol

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

It's possible, but they have to navigate through an extremely hazardous destroyed urban area full of people, locate a whole bunch of hostages, "rescue" the hostages without killing them all, and then gtfo before Hamas responds. Spec Ops aren't really very good at the things the public thinks they're very good at. That kind of aggressive hostage rescue is a bloodbath waiting to happen. The only way to clear tunnels without your soldiers all getting massacred is with shitloads of explosives. None of that "tier 1 room clearing" shit actually works against prepared enemies. I have no idea how they'd expect to actually go down in to a tunnel or bunker system, fight Hamas soldiers in CQC, and not either get wiped out or kill all the hostages in the process.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

We sort of do. US tier one operators are extremely good at killing people. Thing is, that's not really very useful in an armed conflict, and they people they're good at killing are mostly civilians. Tier 1 spec ops is an almost complete military failure. Regular troops hate them because the Tier 1 guys invade some area and kill a whole bunch of innocent people every time they go on a mission. Then the regular troops are fucked because any raport or peace they've made with the locals is fucked, and they're right back to getting shot at while the Tier 1 guys are back on base smuggling drugs and shit.

The whole idea of using small teams of elite special forces dudes goes back to Kennedy. Kennedy was high on the idea that he could use small groups of super-soldiers to cheaply and clandestinely achieve goals that would otherwise take large numbers of conventional soldiers. Well, it turned out that the only thing spec ops is actually good at is being death squads, and death squads can't achieve conventional military objectives. But neoliberals love the idea of cheaper specialized units so special forces has come to be a very big part of the US military and intelligence operations.

[-] ZapataCadabra@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

Obama fans were all about saying he used spec ops and drones for precision strikes without risking troops.

[-] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Spec Ops goes back further than that, back to WWII but what they were good at was blowing things up (you know what people call terrorism). However, when all you have is uncontested air space and the ability to blow shit up all the time, these Spec Ops teams are sudden completely superfluous, other than for just straight up slaughter.

[-] ChapoKrautHaus@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

GREAT summary, this is 100% factual.

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