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Israel trying to pass the hospital bombing off as Palestine doing it is utterly disgusting and guarantees Netanyahu a spot in the deepest pit of Hell for all eternity, obviously, but do not forget that

a) the only reason why Westerners will believe it is because they want to believe it - they are not being brainwashed and this is not some masterful propaganda being weaved around us to turn kind-hearted people into monsters,

b) no Westerner opinions matter at all. In most Western countries there is no real anti-Israel option to vote for even if they did realize that Israel was a giant factory for crimes against humanity, and Westerners protesting against things in general almost never achieves anything (tens of millions protested for BLM in 2020 and not only did the situation not change, it got worse), and

c) the people whose opinions do matter (both the people in the region, and the leaders who aren't already Zionist compradors) already know that Israel is full of shit and that they just murdered nearly a thousand civilians in a single bomb attack.

It is despair-inducing to think that the genocidal Zionist entity is so brazenly, so smugly getting away with bullshitting this away into a cloud of confusion, as they release their metaphorical squid ink just like they did with the stupid babies story, but the propaganda and the media narrative that they are creating isn't what matters. It cannot address the fundamental contradictions ripping the country, the region, and the world apart any more than masterfully-applied makeup can fix a stab wound. It can merely obfuscate.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update isn't coming because I'm sick and too focussed on the collapse of the Zionist entity.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Israel says: "Gazans, go south to avoid the fighting!" Then Israel starts to shell the south and unfortunately there are civilian causalities. Funny how that works.

In this war is this Israel's first strike on southern Gaza causing deaths? Fuel trucks have just started going North from Egypt into Gaza.

At least 5 killed and 15 injured in Israeli airstrike in Rafah, Palestinian interior ministry says

At least five people were killed and 15 others were injured in an Israeli airstrike that targeted a multi-story house in Rafah in the southern Gaza strip, the Palestinian interior ministry said Monday.

The ministry said the airstrike happened without prior warning from the Israel Defense Forces.

The IDF has not issued any comments about the strike.

https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-news-hamas-war-10-16-23/h_9ed6f69b5e078b151dfccc0ed4aeca44

[-] Rojo27@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago

Least shocking development ever. Israel is really pushing the limits of the West's sympathy. Such is the rabid hatred they have for Palestinians.

They could easily have maintained popular support in the West if they had scaled back their bomibng of Gaza. There's only so much sympathy stories the Western propaganda machine can get out of the Flood attack.

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It didn't help that they 'women were r*ped" story was a lie. And their "beheaded babies" story was a lie. The media hasn't turned on their Hamas "Top Secret" map story. But I think the US media feels burned because tv news has been oddly quiet about it. Executives and people who run news rooms don't want to seem like idiots if the map story turns out to be a pile of feces as well.

[-] AbbysMuscles@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

It didn't help that they 'women were raped" story was a lie.

Was that one a lie? A friend showed me "before/after" pics of that woman pinned down in the truck and it did not look good

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

According to an interview with her mother shortly after the fight at the rave she was alive and in a hospital in Gaza, but in very serious condition. She's probably exactly as injured as she looked in the picture. I haven't heard any updates on whether she survived her injuries or the shelling of Gaza.

Many people extrapolated her wearing shorts and a bra to being that her clothes were torn off or something but that's pretty standard attire for ravers at festivals.

I'd have to go search out the interview article again, but it's in the old mega somewhere.

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As far as I know, that's literally all there is to it. A picture of a woman with blood on her, no actual information about what caused it. IDF specifically shoots Palestinians in the genitals, too, so it's not like Hamas rape is the only conceivable explanation.

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I wouldn't excuse that horrible act if it happened. But as I know - there's no evidence.

Edit

I wrote this a week ago.

A few minutes ago John Kirby was on CNN. He's a NSC guy in the White House. Jake Tapper mentioned Israeli women getting r*ped. When the stream cut back to Kirby - he was choked up and almost crying. It took him a number of long seconds to manage to get words out.

I expected that and I saw it today from people like dem congresspeople when they discussed the music festival. But I seriously didn't think even nat sec guys would do that too. They are cool as fucking cucumbers when talking about thousands of dead Palestinians. Or when discussing 1,000s or 10,000s of foreigners of all kinds killed in war.

"We regret the tragic loss of life and the way you know that is I'm reading this pro forma statement that I've said a dozen times without any emotion at all and this is no exception, Jake."

He saw that video too. In retrospect - it's certainly possible he knew it was authentic. Or - he could have teared up because he thought it was proof.

Later somebody turned that bit of vid into him in clown face crying water works tears.

[-] Maoo@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

Never forget that white supremacists have empathy for themselves and dehumanize everyone else. There is nothing inconsistent in one of them tearing up over someone they deem to be on their side while expressing glee that a (brown) refugee boat sank.

[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

Israel says: "Gazans, go south to avoid the fighting!" Then Israel starts to shell the south

with no research i just kinda assumed that was a trap when they said it

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