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Israel trying to pass the hospital bombing off as Palestine doing it is utterly disgusting and guarantees Netanyahu a spot in the deepest pit of Hell for all eternity, obviously, but do not forget that

a) the only reason why Westerners will believe it is because they want to believe it - they are not being brainwashed and this is not some masterful propaganda being weaved around us to turn kind-hearted people into monsters,

b) no Westerner opinions matter at all. In most Western countries there is no real anti-Israel option to vote for even if they did realize that Israel was a giant factory for crimes against humanity, and Westerners protesting against things in general almost never achieves anything (tens of millions protested for BLM in 2020 and not only did the situation not change, it got worse), and

c) the people whose opinions do matter (both the people in the region, and the leaders who aren't already Zionist compradors) already know that Israel is full of shit and that they just murdered nearly a thousand civilians in a single bomb attack.

It is despair-inducing to think that the genocidal Zionist entity is so brazenly, so smugly getting away with bullshitting this away into a cloud of confusion, as they release their metaphorical squid ink just like they did with the stupid babies story, but the propaganda and the media narrative that they are creating isn't what matters. It cannot address the fundamental contradictions ripping the country, the region, and the world apart any more than masterfully-applied makeup can fix a stab wound. It can merely obfuscate.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update isn't coming because I'm sick and too focussed on the collapse of the Zionist entity.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago

This is the most compelling analysis of the hospital bombing I've come across so far.

https://streamable.com/9hqn6w

[-] supafuzz@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

An air burst means the courtyard full of refugees was the target

no "hamas base in the hospital, had to do it" excuses, just pure genocide

[-] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago

The courtyard is littered with childrens backpacks. jesus fucking christ.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

I really don't recommend looking at too many videos there are some EXTREMELY graphic ones of the little ones that those backpacks belonged to.

[-] supafuzz@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

there was a lot of downward force over a pretty wide area, absolutely an air burst

[-] zephyreks@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

Devil's advocate says car roof bends down because of fire. However, I'm fairly confident a sequence of gasoline explosion can't shatter glass at that distance. Each tank is only like 15L of gas.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

Also, hospital generators run on gas and there’s a critical shortage in Gaza with hospitals begging for even a single liter of gas. It’s likely that all the vehicles in that parking lot had already been siphoned to run the generator

[-] supafuzz@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

anyway, the confirmed video of the explosion shows one big one, not a series of little ones

[-] zephyreks@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Agreed, however, that doesn't make the bent roofs a silver bullet because even gasoline fires could cause that.

[-] supafuzz@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

not to the awning roofs 100 yards away

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

How did gasoline fires kill 500 people? I really don’t get this

[-] zephyreks@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

I agree it's most likely an airburst, but I don't think dented car roof is evidence supporting it.

[-] supafuzz@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

do a google image search for 'burned car' and tell me how many collapsed roofs you see

[-] zephyreks@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

There are one or two that are deformed... But you're right, it's extremely rare. My bad. For some reason I kept remembering burned out cars with bent roofs. Sorry 😔

[-] supafuzz@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

s'all good comrade, we're just systematically dismantling all of the reasons to give the genociders any benefit of the doubt

[-] wheresmysurplusvalue@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

What's the significance of it being air burst? Does that imply a certain munition or give more evidence towards it being one side or the other?

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

Airburst is rather more advanced than anything the palestinians have. It's a specific type of missiles that explodes at a set distance above the intended target in order to maximise damage.

Think of it this way, an explosion is a sphere. When your missile hits the ground you lose 50% of that sphere to the ground. When you blow it in the air you get considerably more energy over a wider area.

[-] wheresmysurplusvalue@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

Thank you, that was really helpful!

[-] NonWonderDog@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

https://news.northropgrumman.com/news/releases/northrop-grumman-delivers-200-000th-dsu-33-proximity-sensor

Air burst fuses for Mk 82 bombs (the ones usually fitted with JDAM and used by Israel) are also very common.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

This is interesting, is there anything out there that explicitly states something about its use with MK82 bombs?

[-] NonWonderDog@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yep, DSU-33 is the prox fuze for the Mk 80 series, looks like the DSU-33 D/B variant is specifically intended for JDAM.

https://ndiastorage.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/ndia/2019/fuze/21855_Liberatore.pdf

Doppler Radar Proximity Sensor
• Detects one factory-preset Height of Burst (HOB) and provides fire pulse signal to FMU-139 series and FMU-152 fuzes
• Compatible with M117 & Mk80-series general-purpose warheads, including JDAM variants

Performance Parameters
• Height of Burst: 14-26 feet AGL
• Operational Life: 200 sec, min
• Storage Life: 13 years
• Service Life: 5 years outside storage container
• Multiple weapon release:
salvo: 6, ripple: 24

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