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The day when it becomes unavoidably obvious to Americans that China is doing better than them will be hilarious.
if USians weren't so good at burying their heads in the sand it would've already happened
All a person has to do is walk down the street in Shanghai, and then LA or New York City, and even the most oblivious will figure it out! I think most Americans think of China as a collection of farming villages rather than the powerhouse they've become.
I met a young (bourgeois) woman from Shanghai recently, dating a friend of a friend, who said that when she comes to a city like New York, let alone another city in the US, she finds it backward. It obviously makes me wonder but as I'm unable to make the comparison I can't be certain to what extent it's an objective judgement but my gut is to take her word for it, though the fact shes bougie also had to be taken into account.
This is already happening, and probably faster than we think. One benchmark of a “cultural center” is how accessible it is to world culture within the city. 15-20 years ago it was unimaginable to think of, say, some very specific African tribal dance classes in Shanghai. Today, there are studios led by world-class professionals. It is only a matter of time before Shanghai overtakes NYC as the world’s cultural hub.
Shanghai is at least 10-15 years ahead of NYC, Chicago or any “top tier” North American cities. Like, there is no comparison at all.
NGL as a Br🤮t my experiences have suggested the US is kind of backwards - stuff like the public transport being even worse than ours, or having only just adopted contactless payments, or not having walkable cities. We're not much better, but it is kinda jarring when Americans talk about how they're the leaders of the free world then are surprised other countries can do instant bank transfers from their phone.
Anyway, if she's coming from a country that has actually good versions of all that, I can imagine it's like when I went to the former gdr and felt like I'd stepped 15 years into the past.
Yeh most of the US is worse overall than the UK I'd reckon. I have more first-hand knowledge of the UK, having spent a decent amount of time there, and it's especially striking once you're outside of London. Like in the North, Wales or Northern Ireland the infrastructure situation has clearly been massively under-invested in for decades compared to London. Even spots which are getting in investment like Liverpool or Glasgow are mainly being gentrified instead of becoming more economically efficient or affordable.
It does also make me wanna go see China but I don't know people there and shit's expensive as fuck lmao.
Quantity of consumption =/= quality of life
westoid cope
This is the same West that contains Appalachia, right? The question isn't whether China can raise their living standard up to the West (this is already the case), but whether they can raise their overall living standard up to that of top Western cities.
美国梦是个人发财的梦
讲究冒险
通过个人奋斗达到所谓的成功
成为有产者
然后去剥削别人
中国梦是共同富裕
追求的是人民幸福
换句话说
美国梦是个人梦
是为美元的梦
中国梦是人民梦
是为人民服务的梦
这就是二者的本质区别
以后不要在我面前提起美国梦
俗气
average soulless westerner fantasizing about genocide.