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It's almost like Israel's plan is to radicalise Palestinian youths, so more and more grow up to be terrorists with each generation, and they can use the shock doctrine after each attack to kill 10-100x more people, and steal more land, then rinse and repeat until there is no Palestine... Basically genocide with extra steps.
What's fucked up is there's a ridiculously easy fix.
If US and other western goverments told Israel if they seize any land, we stop giving them billions of dollars a year, Israel would stop annexing land. Which would likely mean they stop instigating Hamas. They'd have nothing to gain anymore. They'd finally have motivation for the conflict to end.
They're fine starting wars right now, because they have so much money to burn on "defense" and they know if any actual countries try to help Palestine, then Israel can (and will) drag the West into it and start WW3.
Even if Palestine is completely erased from the map, there's no reason to think Israel will stop. There's a very good chance they just start doing this to another neighbor next. Which is why literally all of Israels neighbors hate them.
What is even more fucked up is that USA has zero interest in “fixing” the Middle East.
It should be obvious by now that the only interest USA has in the Middle East is the hoarding of resources.
They want the Middle East to be destabilized so they can continue hoarding wealth. It’s the whole reason they prop up Israel so the fighting and wars continue.
There are no ethics here.
You're forgetting that a lot of people in the West want WW3.
Fundamentalist Christians making the Apocalypse, Military Industry making money. etc.
But the hate you're wrong about. The hate goes back 4,000 years.
Mark my words, in 50 years, it will be Jordan, Egypt or Lebanon. Maybe even all three. Once the Palestinian genocide is completed they will start to push boundaries in the name of safety and national security. With US support there's nothing stopping them as long as Zionists stay in power and move slow enough, they only have to kill more people than the population replacement rate. And in a century or two they won't even have to pretend and just straight up annex their neighbors. A million things can happen within here and there, but it's crazy to think that this strategy was devised in the XIX century and it seems to be working.
Yes, I have, and yes I'm aware. What's your point?
There’s truths and lack of understanding in your comment. Israel doesn’t want that land. They left that land. They don’t settle in that land. It has nothing to do with why hamas hates them. Israel has settlements in the West Bank and I agree that the USA should hold Israel responsible for not expanding settlements there but the issues with Gaza and Hamas are very different than the issues in the West Bank.
Hamas just wants to kill Israelis no matter the cost. Hamas is mostly a Gaza thing. Not a West Bank thing. NO peace is possible between two parties when one continually shows the desire to eradicate the other. Israel doesn’t want to erase Gaza (or at least hasn’t in the past). They have the ability to and could have done it whenever they wanted. They actively put effort to not eradicate them. They may not treat Gaza well but it’s obvious they aren't trying to kill them by the fact that they are still there.
”they may not treat Gaza well” Understatement of the century “But it’s obvious they aren’t trying to kill them” But they are…
Using this same logic, Hamas must not want Israel gone; because they are still there
……no. I think it’s pretty clear which side has the ability to decimate the other