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[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 11 months ago

The theme is your inability to understand stats.

...what stats? You mean stats of the most successful mass murders? I think that belongs to trucks and planes.

If cars, which are more readily available than guns are able to cause more damage every shooter would go for that but reality is guns are easier.

Guns are just what they see on TV. Lots of people use cars, bombs or whatever else. In the case of France they didn't have guns, but it obviously didn't stop them.

Waco is not serving your argument. Firstly, the military was not involved.

Uuuuhhh but that WAS my argument...

Second, we're talking 4 ATF agents lost compared to 76 adults

It doesn't matter. No one is keeping score. The point is they stood up for themselves and gave the ATF a fuckin' helluva time. Wanna take a poll on how many armed citizens there are vs. ATF agents? Or even the entirety of the US military?

[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Yea the military was never involved. So it has nothing to do with my initial point. Buck and Chuck are not taking down the US army. I don't know why we got sidetracked with it.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 11 months ago

You're the one who brought it up?

The point is the military won't be dropping bombs on its own people.

[-] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago

WACO negotiations took 53 days, but MOVE was given a day to leave before two bombs were dropped in the middle of rowhouses in Philadelphia 😂 arming yourself to discourage the government works way better when the government is already favorable to your cause.

[-] cabillaud@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

False. Spain 1936.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

The phone is ringing, it's for you. Sounds like some miners in West Virginia from 1921 would like to talk to you.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl -1 points 11 months ago

Whoa, you got a time traveling phone!?

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Nah, you're just living that far in the past.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Wait so IM a time traveler!? And I didn't even know it! 🤯🤯🤯

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

You're not a time traveler, you just have the mental acuity of a fossil.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 11 months ago

Oh, I'm a shape shifter too, how exciting. Tell me, how did you learn of my super powers?

[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

You're so confident. Why? Even after I showed you ATF agents alone can suppress an insurrection before we even bring in armed guards.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You're so confident. Why?

Why wouldn't I be?

Even after I showed you ATF agents alone can suppress an insurrection

LOL you're talking about a handful of looney cultists. I'm talking about a revolution.

You're still so confident despite having 0 counter-arguments

[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Then why bring up Waco at all?

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 11 months ago

Fuck dude. I can't. We're done here. Bye.

[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

At least I'm not the one making statements with full confidence. "The military won't drop bombs on it own people" . Open a history book. Any. Ever.

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