89
Manny Coto, The Showrunner Who Tried To Save 'Star Trek: Enterprise,' Dies
(subspacechatter.substack.com)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 12 Jul 2023
89 points (97.8% liked)
Star Trek
10571 readers
5 users here now
r/startrek: The Next Generation
Star Trek news and discussion. No slash fic...
Maybe a little slash fic.
New to Star Trek and wondering where to start?
Rules
1 Be constructive
All posts/comments must be thoughtful and balanced.
2 Be welcoming
It is important that everyone from newbies to OG Trekkers feel welcome, no matter their gender, sexual orientation, religion or race.
3 Be truthful
All posts/comments must be factually accurate and verifiable. We are not a place for gossip, rumors, or manipulative or misleading content.
4 Be nice
If a polite way cannot be found to phrase what it is you want to say, don't say anything at all. Insulting or disparaging remarks about any human being are expressly not allowed.
5 Spoilers
Utilize the spoiler system for any and all spoilers relating to the most recently-aired episodes, as well as previews for upcoming episodes. There is no formal spoiler protection for episodes/films after they have been available for approximately one week.
6 Keep on-topic
All submissions must be directly about the Star Trek franchise (the shows, movies, books etc.). Off-topic discussions are welcome at c/quarks.
7 Meta
Questions and concerns about moderator actions should be brought forward via DM.
Upcoming Episodes
| Date | Episode | Title |
|---|---|---|
| 11-21 | LD 5x06 | "Of Gods and Angles" |
| 11-28 | LD 5x07 | "Fully Dilated" |
| 12-05 | LD 5x08 | "Upper Decks" |
| 12-12 | LD 5x09 | "Fissue Quest" |
| 12-19 | LD 5x10 | "The New Next Generation" |
In Production
Strange New Worlds (2025)
Section 31 (2025-01-24)
Starfleet Academy (TBA)
In Development
Untitled comedy series
Wondering where to stream a series? Check here.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
Strange New Worlds is like Old Trek. Highly suggest it even if you have to sail the virtual seas to get it.
I'll check out a trailer. Thanks!
It's closer to Old Trek. But in the last episode of S1
spoiler
where they take original TOS dialog for parts and mix it with modern dialog - man you really see the difference. Love it or hate it, the TOS dialog feels a lot more martial and IMO fits way better with having ranks on a ship.There's good stuff in it, but they also seem to really have a problem making any non-quippy character, to the extent that I actually think it affects characterization. To that end, Ortegas still
spoiler
isn't that well fleshed out IMHO even with the last episode being 1/3 about her. I think earlier Trek played tricks to make characters feel more different, but those worked.Spock is certainly "in between" The Cage and TOS, but I think they're going to have to re-do something like Kohlinar to explain his change in the last episode of SNW.
It's reasonably good, but significantly different too.
Your spoiler tags are not working correctly on my end, could be connect idk. But its just trying to resemble old trek. I don't think it is trying to be a 1 for 1. I'll take the delivery format over Discovery. We get episodes to focus on each character, we aren't constantly drained by chasing some seasonal baddie. Its nice.
I thought that point about the season finale was the whole point of the episode. Pike and his style weren't right for the situation. He was like a caricature of Picard without the tactical superiority to back it up.
It also might be another reason Enterprise was the ship kept out of the Klingon war.
I don't disagree, and I suppose captains get a LOT of leeway with how they run their ships. What I'm actually talking about is
spoiler
the part where Spock has the TOS lines being jarring.I think in that case they let "easter eggs" for fans get in the way of coherently telling the story they wanted to tell. At least with your (and my) take -
spoiler
how do you get that Spock? It seems like the divergence would have left Spock more like he is now with Pikes leadership style, vs the apparent changes to TOS with Kirks style.