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[-] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

Transphobes continued to deny when Bridget was explicitly stated by the creators to be trans. I agree that things shouldn't be left too ambiguous, but there's no way to get through to these types.

[-] Alunyanners@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"he's (daisuke ishiwatari) been pressured by the woke mob to make bridget trans!"

"bridget only comes out as trans in the bad ending!"

"bridget isn't trans in the japanese version!"

and so on

[-] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

none of these are true either, just a deliberate misinterpretation on their parts

[-] Cromalin@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

yeah, people tried to argue for years that everyone in utena was straight.

[-] Alunyanners@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 year ago

i hate this so fucking much, how fragile and insecure can cishets get?

[-] Cromalin@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

i just now realized that i somehow accidentally blocked you? you were the only user on the block list, that was why i was replying to you with my lemmygrad account on the touhou post, idk how that happened

anyways yeah it's fucking ridiculous. have you seen that clip of one of the dub voices talking about having to prove to the production team that juri was gay?

[-] Alunyanners@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

ah, i didn't think it was you lol

though... did i say or do something especially wrong to get blocked? being the only person at that too ;;;w;;;

[-] Cromalin@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago
[-] Alunyanners@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago
[-] Cromalin@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago
[-] Alunyanners@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

it's okay, all's forgiven (/;w;)/

[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

some people reject word of god retcons, but supposedly they're claiming the plan was always for her to character develop this way.

i'm not very read up on fighting game story, but wasn't she amab and then immediately reassigned female shortly after birth (RFSAB) because of lore? that seems kinda icky for trans rep, like that botched circumcision kid.

[-] autismdragon@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

The story is that she was AMAB, but raised as a girl because of the village's superstitions about male twins. In the earlier games she identified as a boy (but wore feminine clothes anyway) and lives that way for awhile. But then, in the recent game... I'm just going to quote the wiki on this bit

Sometime after the G4 Summit, Goldlewis Dickinson locates Bridget and tries to add Roger to his cryptid collection, but she resists and Goldlewis backs off. When he casually calls her "li'l lady", Bridget corrects him by listessly saying she is a boy. Goldlewis deduces that she is anxious, product of hiding her true self, not having told her parents yet. Conflicted, Bridget seeks Ky—who has admirably gone public about Gears—out, and he encourages her to decide for herself how she wants to live. Her conversations with Ky and Goldlewis lead her to: in one path, think some more about her own happiness; in another, admit to being scared of losing what she has but no longer wanting to lie to herself, and asserts that she is a girl; and finally, find the strength to live as her true self no matter what others think, and Ky invites her to come visit Dizzy sometime.

So when she first leaves the village she tries living as a boy for awhile, but eventually decides its not how she wants to live and realizes that she is in fact a girl. Some chuds say that its a shitty storyline because it means "the grooming was successful" but I think that takes away all her agency in the situation. She's deciding for herself that she is, after all that, a girl. It is kinda funny though because it could be semi-joked that she's amab but also a cis girl because of her origin story. I'd stay she still functions as a trans girl within the greater world though, that would really only apply in her home village.

[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

just have a normal trans character ffs anime games can't do anything simple.

is this a reaction to the reaction thing where we're ignoring the conversion therapy angle and deliberately ignoring the absolute disaster of the time somebody actually tried raising an amab kid as a girl because it's more funny to make the hogs mad?

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

It's awkward writing trying to do some sort of justice to a character they introduced 20 years ago with little forethought. To quote wikipedia:

Bridget was created by Guilty Gear Daisuke Ishiwatari, wanting to create a "cute character," initially presenting her as a crossdressing boy, a detail that was kept secret to most staff members.[4][5] Ishiwatari "wanted something unconventional" to differentiate Bridget from other fighting games' cute characters; he and staff members decided it "would be interesting to make the character a guy."[5][6]

Following speculation about Bridget's gender following her addition to Guilty Gear Strive, Ishiwatari and Strive director Akira Katano confirmed that Bridget self-identifies as a woman and uses "she/her" pronouns.

[-] Alunyanners@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago

Following speculation about Bridget’s gender following her addition to Guilty Gear Strive, Ishiwatari and Strive director Akira Katano confirmed that Bridget self-identifies as a woman and uses “she/her” pronouns.

noooo what do you mean japanese people can also be woke, stooopppp, you're literally ruining my reactionary fascist ethnostate fantasies, it's clearly westerners who pushed and forced this shit and threatened to cancel them if they didn't put a trans character in the game 😭😭😭😭

[-] autismdragon@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah I mean. I dont actually know that I believe that having her decide she's a girl was "always the plan" like they claimed because the narrative seems a bit messy if thats the case. But I am indeed willing to support and love this character and rep her just because it makes the hogs mad lmao (also because I love her design). And I appreciate the creator for putting his foot down saying "no she's a girl deal with it" against all the attempts to pretend the narrative isnt what it is and be chauvinistic about Japan.

[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

And I appreciate the creator for putting his foot down saying "no she's a girl deal with it" against all the attempts to pretend the narrative isnt what it is and be chauvinistic about Japan.

this seems like the best part of it all to me, yeah. Credit to present-day Ishiwatari for that.

[-] Cromalin@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

it's not a conversion therapy thing, they made a transphobic joke character and the only way to make bridget not a transphobic joke was to make her textually trans

from the watsonian pov she lived as a boy separate from the village and it's customs for like a decade before sorting her shit out, there was no conversion therapy and even when she lived in the village they weren't trying to convince her she was really a girl, they were very open about it being a disguise to her

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