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Last Chance to fix eIDAS: Secret EU law threatens Internet security — Mozilla
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I haven't had a chance to check anything yet, but given who (Mozilla) is reacting and how, I suspect this is just another case of EU authorities acting to protect their citizens from (American) corporate abuse
Not in this case. I suggest you read the open letter (which is signed by 335 scientists and researchers from 32 countries so far).
Or, do you consider it to be corporate abuse when Mozilla prevents governments from using their certificate authorities to launch MITM attacks and impersonate websites for the purpose of intercepting internet traffic? Because that is what we're talking about.
Until I find the bloody proposal that none of it's detractors seems to dare link to, I'm going to assume that I, as a citizen of EU, has a clear and present interest in not having Mozilla et al using their control of our browsers to block government services.
I can do without my browser suddenly deciding that it doesn't trust the fire department, thank you very much.
(Or the pharmacy, or my doctor, or, or or at lot of things.)
They haven't released the text publicly but they're voting on it in less than a week. That's also one of the many objections that Mozilla et al has to this whole thing: it's basically being done in secret in a way that won't give the public any time to react or object.
Historically, the browser vendors have only distrusted certificate authorities when they had reason to not trust them, not some arbitrary reason.
One of the examples of them preventing a CA from being trusted is Kazakhstan's, which was specifically set up to enable them to intercept users' traffic: https://blog.mozilla.org/netpolicy/2020/12/18/kazakhstan-root-2020/
Even if all of the EU states turn out to be completely trustworthy, forcing browser vendors to trust the EU CAs would give more political cover for other states to force browser vendors to trust their CAs. Ones that definitely should not be trusted.
I think there wouldn't be nearly the same level of objection if it was limited to each country's CC TLD, rather than any domain on the internet.
What a wildly inappropriate waste of a thesaurus.
Are you competing in some obscure Internet irony competition?
I don't know whether it's true.
I am however confident that you don't know either.
But as for the "slightest" research, riddle me this: Why is there no link to the proposal in the article?
You think you’re a pragmatist, but you’re just an ignorant fool.
How is giving any EU state the ability to be a certificate authority in your browser for issing a certificate for any site, without them needing to follow the rules the browser vendors have for what makes an authority trustworthy, with no option to disable them or add additional checks to their validity, "protecting their citizens from (American) corporate abuse"?
From the Mozilla post: