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“Cairns are a nuanced topic,” Death Valley spokesperson Abby Wines told SFGATE in a statement.

While some of the cairns that mark hiking trails and routes are done by park rangers, most are created “by hikers trying to pay it forward to help other hikers,” Wines told SFGATE. “These cairns are useful and should be left where they are.”

She also said that sometimes cairns are used to mark historic features.

“Cairns were used to mark boundaries of mining claims and land survey points in this area in the late 1800s and early 1900s,” she said. “Now these are helpful for historical archaeologists and should be left in place, just like historic trash around old mining camps should be left in place.”

Wines said that guests should never build cairns but also should avoid knocking them down.

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[-] Aabbcc@lemm.ee 13 points 11 months ago

fucking up the environment

Nooooo 10 rocks are now vertical instead of horizontal. The environment is fucked now

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 13 points 11 months ago

Noooooooo I threw this one piece of trash on the ground the environment is fucked

Noooooooo I dumped one pan of used motor oil on some weeds the environment is fucked

Noooooooo I bought a bitcoin mining rig and doubled my electric bill the environment is fucked

[-] Aabbcc@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

You win, stacking rocks is the same as dumping oil. My mind has been changed

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago

The point is that there are many things that aren't too big of deal if one person does it, but become major problems when a lot of people do it.

[-] KarlBarqs@hexbear.net 3 points 11 months ago

Which is a garbage point to make because you're clearly aware that doing this stuff is bad, but justify doing it because other people should stop

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Is this akin to the recycling 'we all have to do our part' schtick pushed by the oil companies?

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 12 points 11 months ago

The environment is fucked now

Locally, yes, it actually is to some extent after that.

Of course you could choose not to do that but the impulse to be a contrarian asshole is strong, isn't it?

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 10 points 11 months ago

Read the article or shut the fuck up.

[-] Aabbcc@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Have you read the article?? Which part says they're "fucking up the environment"?

[-] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah, you're thinking of a different article. This one doesn't actually say what the impact of building a cairn is, and I am actually curious what the impact is for building cairns from rocks in a (relatively) dry place. The stream-bed perturbation discussion was one thing, and I am curious how much of that applies to this different context.

[-] windowlicker@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago

rocks are essential parts of the habitats of some creatures. disturbing them is disturbing their habitats. do you understand the concept of "leave no trace" at all?

[-] Venus@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago

If you were the only human on earth it might be only 10 rocks

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