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just because we find war apalling doesn't mean we're all nazis
I mean i'm totally against what Israel is currently and has been doing, but i do understand the perspective, there IS a lot of antisemite(as in anti-jew) mixing in with the protest, and it shows in a lot of incident, and that need to be tackled and condemned as well.
yes it has to be condemed, but not in the way of "we cannot tolerate hate against jews, we must support israel"
for us states are separate from religion, i can condemn the cruelty of israel without hating jews. i can condemn the cruelty of the hamas without hating moslems.
but if anybody is against israels current actions they are instantly marked as antisemitic, so they animate more hate against israel, and the real antisemites get cocky.
if critique about a country, a party, a politician or an opinion becomes a hate crime, we're just a short step away from fascism
And it is condemned as well
You haven't read the article have you?
I did, and it's just as one-sided as most of the articles i see, some are only pro palestine, some are only pro-israel, but i am german, i don't want to pick a side, just like in a football match.
i find it appalling, how israel (not "the jews", but the state) treated palestinians for the last about 60 years, it's an apartheid system designed to oppress them.
i find it appalling that the hamas attacked israel targetting mostly civilians.
i find it appalling how israel supported by all western countries sets gaza under siege, and mass murders civilians an terrorists alike, and talk about them as if they were animals.
i dont want to pick sides, both are disgusting.
just because germany tried to eradicate the jews 80 years ago does not mean i will support the state of israel to eradicate the palestinians.
So throwing petrol bombs at German synagogues is just anti-zionism?
first, that was before the current conflict.
second, i dont't say there arent nazis in germany ther are about 100% more nazis in germany than i would like, but its the same in every country.
third, it is MY opinion, not to pick sides, there are enough people that act on "the enemy of my enemy is my friend " so nazis can support hamas, as stupid as it sounds...
i just think the politicians handle it badly when the intertwine the guilt of the holocaust with the unconditional support for israel, because the israel of today has nothing to do with the oppressed and hunted jews of WW2, they are now the oppressors.
the hamas is condemned for their actions, israel should be, too
Again, did you read the article? The petrol bomb case was just an example of something that has skyrocketed since the war
Sorry, i didn't realise the conflict started already over a month ago, too much sleep deprivation does weird things to my brain.
but still, most of the article talks about how some people perceive their security, not how bad it really is.
i know there are lost of assholes in germany, but i have to repeat myself, the politicians make it worse, when everybody that doesn't support israel is instantly antisemitic and anti-zionist.
does ANYBODY think that a person will support israel against their own moral codex when they are called an antisemite, or will the person more likely BECOME an antisemite?