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All you got out of that was "capitalism bad" ?
The fuck...
I'm in the medical field. Capitalism and quality healthcare are incompatible. Any capitalist country with good healthcare only has good healthcare because they keep capitalism out of it. It gets immediately worse when capitalism is reintroduced to the field. Look at the UK and Canada for reference. Not to mention, her suicide note explicitly says profit is the reason that her and her co-workers are suffering. Educate yourself on the issues or shut the fuck up
Our politicians are pushing hard for an American system in Canada, the provincial Conservative (Republican) governments are underfunding healthcare so they can turn around and say "See!? This is why we need a two tier system." it's bullshit.
Straight out of the republican handbook. I wish y'all the best
They're scamming you out of the right to take care of your own bodies. Get loud before it's too late.
But but but WiAtInG TiMeS! I cAn'T gEt InStAnT aPpOiNtMeNtS wItH SoCiAlIsM HeAlThCaRe!!
Oh, the first available appointment I can make in the current capitalist system is two weeks out? Teehee... Shhhh. I want to fight for the owners. Teehee 🤭
Two weeks? I've had to wait months for my primary doctor.
What else would you call it? She literally says that they put her in this terrible situation with no help so that they could squeeze a few extra dollars in profit. So, yeah… that’s her point.
“You are only using and exploiting us to line your pocket with the common citizen's money for overcharged healthcare. You don't care about anyone because you have a narcissistic personality.”
You do realize that capitalism isn't the only economic system that works people to the bone right? She's calling out the people who run the hospital. How you came to the conclusion that her suicide was an anti-capitalist cry is beyond me.
Did you not read the quote? She didn’t work under another system. She worked for a private healthcare provider and explicitly called out their profit motive. Don’t be ignorant.
Every corporate run health care institution is like this. Every corporate institution in America is like this. Time to get your head out of your ass.
I'm glad you said it, what a tone deaf summation.
What tone should I have used other than the deceased’s own?
“You are only using and exploiting us to line your pocket with the common citizen's money for overcharged healthcare. You don't care about anyone because you have a narcissistic personality.”
OP edited post with letter terrible article was lacking and tonal change, but hey keep pitchforking
Perhaps one that isnt so dismissive of the entire situation. Or at least doesn't package it in such a way as to make it easy to sweep under the rug.
You may not see it that way but many will, never reading this far. Be an ally, not a hindrance.
The fuck are you talking about?
I'm not entirely sure at this point. Maybe caught between edits?
OP posts article lacking crucial letter FP correctly calls it out FP finds letter, adds it with contradictory/dismissive tldr FP called out but edit wording fixed ME yelling at cloud US all getting dumber having read this far
My comment was neither contradictory nor dismissive. Her letter is an indictment of capitalism, specifically in the healthcare sector. If you can’t read a short letter and process it or keep track of what you’re actually discussing, maybe you should stop arguing with people.
Yeesh. Speaking of yelling at clouds, you continuing to claim something doesn't make it so. The contradiction you can't seem to see was lamenting the lack of such a crucial part of the story (no letter) to essentially blowing it off (opinionated tldr at best) when it was finally found. Clear enough?
I appreciate the use of a reading comprehension jab when you immediately fail it yourself. Third time's the charm? I mean, I tried to bring levity and the mere possiibility Lemmy not updating made things worse but no, you have to be right, get the last word on each post. Well have at it, champ.
You must have a mental issue. My comment includes the letter. And I wasn’t blowing it off. The entire point of the letter is exactly what I said.
It’s crazy to me that you have this level of dumb confidence despite the fact that every response you write is clearly downvoted. You have an issue. You should look into it.
I didn’t edit my post. I put the letter in my original comment 5 minutes after posting so what OP did is irrelevant. The letter has been there for anyone to read since I posted my original comment.
No one is making anything easy to sweep under the rug. The root cause of her complaint, in her own words, is that the system that takes advantage for her for a profit is the one that led to her death.
You don’t have to be dishonest. Read what she said in her own words.
No, I actually agree with it in general. It's that there is so much more going on and comments like that encourage people to gloss over details or skip the article entirely.
I'm as upset as anyone about our late stage capitalism but damn, I'd hoped it'd be longer before the Lemmy was overrun with cynics trying to sum everything up into a neat little package.
You literally asked why and then care enough to type out that you don't care. Fucking brilliant.