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[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 64 points 1 year ago

I see you're complaining about climate change again.

Have you personally spent your entire life recycling everything you can, composting all organic materials you touch, eliminating all red meat intake, planting multiple trees per year, growing your own vegetable and fruit garden in the backyard of your house which you own, avoiding purchasing any plastics despite everything being packaged as such, not buying anything anything beyond your extreme basic necessities, never flying in an airplane for any reason, preferring to keep anything broken and virtually unusable instead of replacing it since repairing it is either unavailable or too expensive, and only riding ebikes or only driving Teslas to save the environment?

No? Then you're the real problem and you can't complain. smuglord

[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

growing your own vegetable and fruit garden in the backyard of your house which you own,

What's funny is I started doing that years ago less for the reduced carbon footprint of growing stuff that actually thrives in my local climate compared to buying produce from a grocer and more as a zen-finding exercise so [redacted]

[-] pillow@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

gardening is cool mainly bc it encourages people to eat plants but for most foods the carbon footprint impact of growing locally is basically nothing

[-] YellowParenti@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

methane from rice

wut

edit:

Flooded rice produces methane

still wut

[-] pillow@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

As in a natural wetland, flooding a rice field cuts off the oxygen supply from the atmosphere to the soil, which results in anaerobic fermentation of soil organic matter. Methane is a major end product of anaerobic fermentation. It is released from submerged soils to the atmosphere by diffusion and ebullition and through roots and stems of rice plants. Recent global estimates of emission rates from wetland rice fields range from 20 to 100 Tg/yr (IPCC 1992), which corresponds to 6-29% of the total annual anthropogenic methane emission.

https://academic.oup.com/bioscience/article-abstract/43/7/466/249121

[-] YellowParenti@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

technically yes but the total amount is so tiny it's not even worth discussing

even the beef isn't worth discussing compared to the CO2 emitted from driving and doing a bullshit job

[-] rhizophonic@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

I don't see any cows out there drilling for oil.

All the small farmers are going out of business and the corporations are moving in with their AI powered sustainable drone systems, stop swallowing the anti farmer propaganda.

Let's put the oil barons out of business before we put our farmers out of business.

This rhetoric is how you end up getting your daily food rations off Musky and his sustainable lab meat. Consolidation food production is not going to work out great for you average human, VC money funding grassroots left right and centre in this scene also, it's all propaganda.

[-] omenmis@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

jesse what the fuck are you talking about

[-] rhizophonic@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

If you can't comprehend what i said then the message wasn't for you.

[-] BoxedFenders@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

You think methane emissions from cattle magically reduces because they're grown on a small farm? Our atmosphere doesn't give a shit if the greenhouse gases came from a factory farm or an artisanal homestead, it's all the same in the end.

[-] rhizophonic@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

it is all the same in the end

[-] bigboopballs@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago
[-] rhizophonic@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Think about what i said, it helps with understanding and stop you from falling for bullshit.

[-] privatized_sun@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

composting all organic materials you touch,

oil executives are made out of backwards chiral proteins, probably aliens

[-] pillow@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

I mean you should be trying to do some of these as much as possible...

big "oh you claim to care about animals but you still eat cheese then you're the problem" vibes, like... yes, that is actually correct?

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah, true that these things are good to do, but expecting all or even most of these things from working class or poor people is unrealistic at this point.

And realistically they would be better able to do these things and the environment would be better if the social economy was organized differently, which once again leads us to criticizing Capitalism as the principle issue instead of blaming individuals surviving and living within their material conditions, so I think people who blame individuals but are unwilling to support any shift in economy or politics are more to blame than people just trying to get by and doing what they can with what they are given.

[-] stewie3128@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Even if they did all that, they'd wipe out all that carbon-savings by having a single kid in the US.

ever wished there were a way to score free meat, do good for oppressed people, eliminate animal cruelty AND save the environment at the same time?

don't look up "how many cops are there" and do not harvest the carbon negative pork!

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