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Every thread against people not strictly aligning with Leftist politics will be boiled down to: “There are three types of people: reasonable people who agree with me, crazy fascists on the other side, and lily-livered wimps who can’t pick a side (and are also secretly fascists who just won't admit it)!”
Anyone with passable writing skills will be downvoted because creating cogent arguments against them is hard, and heaven forbid anyone see a smart argument that doesn't align with your views perfectly.
In a similar vein, people will use the downvote as a "fuck you" button without commenting or adding any value to the conversation whatsoever.
(Edit: Yes, yes. You're all hilarious. I may not have a button to hit, but fuck you too.)
this is written like a lily-livered wimp who is anti-woke and won't admit it
My liver may be flower-scented, but I tend to not paint situations in broad-stoke terms like "woke" that are used to dismiss valid arguments.
You can't disprove a label (especially a vague one that someone else applies to you), however you can very much disprove points.
That sounds like some of that woke socio-commu-liberalism to me.
/s for the oblivious
You summarised my feelings far more eloquently than I managed here yesterday.
Downvote for you!!
But seriously, lemmy feels like more of an echo chamber than reddit ever did to me (which is saying a lot), maybe that's because it's an echo chamber for views i don't agree with and reddit was more aligned to my thinking so I notice it more here, but dear god it's getting harder and harder to stick around.
Don't worry, bud, ive got your right wing right here, despite not being right wing, an american, a frequent voter, or anything....I just apparently am to people so delusional they think a canadian style rational socialist is a fascist.
I guess everyone is on the right when you're on the absolute most extreme left.
Well, no, I don't vote ndp because I'm anti union and anti gun control. I'm perhaps center right and want the national health care fixed, not privatized.
You're missing my point bud. Everything is hot compared to something at 0 kelvin.
Everyone is left compared to the most right wing person, everyone is right compared to the most left wing person. It's why people here often claim reddit is right leaning, despite it heavily favouring the left.
Being the most anything is rarely good, extremes prevent people seeing the other side way too often and very few subjects are 100% anything, most have nuance.
Just making a joke about why someone might accuse you of being a fascist.
Leftists famously don't have uniform views and bitterly disagree on important topics. Some leftists aren't reasonable in my opinion, with many non leftists having better reasoning behind their beliefs. Too many leftists are purity testing assholes, treating leftism with the same elitism that people on Lemmy treat using Linux. I hate elitism, even if you want to limit how big a community is. It's just an unpleasant attitude.
Re: the silent downvoting: IMHO, it's childish and worse than toadying as it's both inherently cowardly and lacks any real effort at all. If I thought it would constructively improve the platform, I'd suggest a daily rationing of them, but what's the point?
edit: D'awww, the chickenshits took the time to click. That's adorable.
Many comments don't deserve any effort beyond a downvote. Whether you like it or not, it's how the system is designed to work.
In this case I downvoted you for being a condescending piece of shit in your edit. Otherwise I probably would have ignored you and moved on.
Sorry, kiddo, but that's not "how the system is designed to work" (you'd know this if you actually read the community guidelines, rather than just wandering in and assuming it was Reddit 2.0), and instead is simply finding a similar fate that etymological morphology suffers at the hands of illiteracy.
Swing and a miss. Next.
We've got a linguistic prescriptivist here! Everyone come and look at the guy who's sick of stuff shifting over time in response to community sentiment!
Necro much? FFS, boomer.
Upvote/DownVote/Likes/Thumbs Up/Etc etc are all bullshit and have ruined online discourse by, for the majority of online interactions, gamifying and distilling it into whatever reaction the poster.. on some subconscious if not conscious level, whatever will get them the most positive praise and trigger that dopamine dump in the brain.
And thats when its not just dogpiling people who are saying things that are true, but you just dont want to hear.
internet would be better if this shit never existed.
That's a tough one, the dopamine hit is real and encourages engagement, which drives up the active userbase and makes for more opportunity for discussion.
They get abused too but a forum with none of it won't grow in nearly the same way as one that makes use of it. People like to earn something (karma, upvotes, whatever) even if it has no tangible value.
Honestly, reddit kinda nailed it but then made it very hard to keep supporting them when they took a steaming shit on the mods and massively overpriced the api to ensure they had more control of the userbase.
Overall I don't think they're hurting too badly from it though and I'm sure the extra ad revenue they get from ensuring everyone uses their app helps to dry their tears. Probably a smart business decision (at least in the short to medium term), depressing as that might be.
It really is the embodiment of that old joke about people never wanting to hear other people's opinions, and only wanting to hear their own opinion parroted back to them by someone passably eloquent.
I can only assume, that these downvotes are meant as a not so smart joke.
Funnily enough, "not so smart joke" is the same descriptor I have for no-discussion downvoters.