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Do you mean other than all the video, physical evidence, and victim testimony? You are a special kind of disgusting.
Where's the video and physical evidence of rape?
Here he goes, trying to stifle legitimate discussion because "it's so obvious nobody should even question what happened."
Look in a mirror, buddy. You're behaving just like people on /r/conservative.
The articles linked in this thread discuss the police, forensics experts, journalists, etc. Who have seen the bodies of women with genital injuries or mutilation. They have seen footage taken from the video the terrorists themselves took and videos from victims. They have testimony from victims. They have statements from the captured Hamas terrorists.
If your first reaction to hearing about a woman being raped is "show me the video or it didn't happen," then yes, you are a chauvinist and a sick person. Questioning women who are reporting rape is not "legitimate discussion." It is victim shaming and empowering sexual assault.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-11-08/ty-article/israeli-police-collect-eyewitness-testimony-of-gang-rape-during-hamas-attack/0000018b-b025-d3c1-a39b-bee5ef400000
https://x.com/Jaquerie2/status/1712900092837994995?s=20
https://x.com/angryopinionatd/status/1712209065013580122?s=20
https://www.timesofisrael.com/footage-of-hamas-assault-on-civilians-shows-likely-war-crimes-experts-say/
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-11-22/ty-article-magazine/.premium/sexual-assault-evidence-against-hamas-is-mounting-but-the-road-to-court-is-still-long/0000018b-f6bb-dafe-a18f-f7fb0a570000
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/11/25/israel-hamas-rape-sexual-violence/
https://www.timesofisrael.com/amid-war-and-urgent-need-to-id-bodies-evidence-of-hamass-october-7-rapes-slips-away/
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/17/world/israel-investigates-sexual-violence-hamas/index.html
https://www.factcheck.org/2023/10/what-we-know-about-three-widespread-israel-hamas-war-claims/
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/11/18/opinion/israeli-women-raped-hamas-attack-outcry/
https://jewishinsider.com/2023/11/israeli-police-women-rape-sexual-violence-hamas-october-7/
https://www.newsweek.com/silence-international-bodies-over-hamas-mass-rapes-betrayal-all-women-opinion-1845783
So, all you have are testimonies from people who claim to have seen video evidence?
You haven't actually seen the evidence yourself? People saying there is video evidence is not the same as there actually being video evidence.
Just say you have people's testimonies, because that's all there is.
Unless you can share the actual video evidence instead of just people saying it exists.
It's funny watching how transparent propagandist tactics are with just a little nudge.
There it is. We're the bad guys for asking for evidence, he's not the bad guy for making a grave claim without providing evidence to support it.
Then he lies about the evidence that he said exists and links to a bunch of nonsense as though it proves his point.
You're the one who said there was video evidence. Why are you getting so mad when people ask you to share it? Because it doesn't exist and you're lying.
Want to prove me wrong? Don't link to a bunch of testimonies claiming they're videos. Show me the videos themselves. It only takes 1 link.
You can't do that though because you're lying. The only way to prove me wrong is to share the video evidence.
A mountain of links and zero evidence!
Your first link has zero evidence (as do all your other links) just the generic "someone said they were gang raping, we don't have any evidence though nor rape kits, just believe us".
The second link is an edited video with someone that seems to talk in a Pashtun accent over it so I'm assuming that is a Taliban(?) video with random subtitles. Is that video even from this conflict? Your fact-check link says that there seems to be no real evidence, just oral allegations. And we know from the 40 beheaded babies how credible those are. All the women release by Hamas in the last few days don't seem to be raped that's for sure.
I'm not going to spend hours debunking every single lie you post. Can you just post a single link with evidence please thanks.
Yes those videos of rape right next to the 40 beheaded babies.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/police-start-building-oct-7-rape-cases-focusing-on-footage-and-testimonies/
Oh wait it's nothing! No videos no pictures. No evidence aside from someone that supposedly said they witnessed "Khamass raping errbody out there".
The rape kits? "Don't work since the bodies are completely burned from all the Hellfire missles the Apache helicopter friendly fired israelis with". Blame it all on Khamass!
Take your chauvinist, murder fetishistic, terrorist apologia back to infowars. They let you deny murdered babies and attack rape victims with impunity over there.
Even better, get some help, go touch grass. You are sick and need contact with other real life humans.
Can't you just share the 'video evidence' to prove him wrong?
You're the one who said there was evidence, share it so we can all see without a doubt that you aren't full of shit. The fact that you're saying "there's evidence" then throw a hissy-fit when pressed to show it tells me that there isn't actually evidence and you're lying through your teeth.
The easy way to prove me wrong would be to share your evidence. Only a fool would take the word of reddit/lemmy comments at face value.
Get off the IDF kool aid and show me some evidence that rape happened. So far I'm seeing zero evidence of any rape yet you keep blabbering about it.
I just wanted to say thanks for removing the personal attack that ended this post previously! It got reported and I WOULD have removed it, but you did the right thing and removed it yourself.
Quick reminder to not attack other users.
Yeah since the other commenter above me decidated an entire paragraph to insults towards me (actually, the entire comment is just insulting me there is no substance) I did add an ad-hom but decided it would be better without attacking him personally so I edited it out.
Please don't remove his comments though I'm waiting for him to respond with evidence.
I, too, am waiting for this 'video evidence' of rapes he's so certain about that he's willing to call someone "a special kind of disgusting" for claiming there's no proof.
This video evidence should clear everything up for everyone, unless he was lying.
The burdon of proof lies with the one making claims. They aren't making any claims. They are only asking for evidence. Would you say the same thing to people questioning the (fake) justifications of war the US used to invade Iraq?
WTF are you talking about? This is an internet forum, not a courtroom. I'm conveying facts that have been widely reported and verified by reputable international news agencies.
Articles, videos, testimony, etc. have already been provided here. If you believe that ALL the evidence presented here is somehow wrong, then feel free to give your reasoning and evidence point by point for all of the journalists, medical professionals, and world leaders being somehow wrong.
Or you can be like the other sick-minded people who have requested to personally see videos of women being raped.
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