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Gotta put meat in the seats or the megaconglomerate who owns the 17 office buildings downtown might have to rethink a portion of one of their income models. Less demand for high end commercial real estate when the companies they lease to realize/ follow through on the fact 90% of them do not need the 28,000 Sq ft bullying zone they use to oppress and keep motivation and salaries low in order to function.
Plus, the cruelty and waste is the point. Also, there's the miserable middle manager rung of humanity that only lives to make their office coworkers lick their boot by prisoner compliance who are rabid to establish the facade of purpose in their career. They don't care if the planet, all their coworker's families, and their company's bottom line have to suffer for that - if they can't loom over their underlings and slow progress with tons of detrimental comments and stupid suggestions, how will the world know they're 'involved'?
I'm overly grateful my firm is 100% remote. Damn.
Yeah that makes sense. The first point (real estate conglomerates) I get. But like you said, that doesn't explain why the tenants (employers) are pushing for it. Is it really just the cruelty and waste that's driving the employers? Also, are companies/managers really like that? That's awful.
I suppose I'm fortunate we don't (and won't) have a mandatory return to office. However, I still like to go in whenever I can because it's a good walk, our office is beautiful, and our chef makes tasty and healthy lunches. I appreciate that we're keeping things so flexible. I do have more fun on the days more people come in!
Vitriol towards office environments and their overlords aside for a minute, here are a few of the positives the company gets from this:
There is wicked amounts of prestige in having a complex with your name on the marquee of the building. Client confidence skyrockets if you "Have a building" in a major metro.
Less ability for overemployment - you can guarantee the guy unable to get this one job finished at the office isn't selling his spare time to the competition down the road.
More control over employee's personal lives and psyche - if you can DEMAND that Mr. Jones be in the office instead of at his kid's parent day lunch, and you have the building to DEMAND he report to, you've driven home the point to Mr. Jones that you own his life, and he is an accessory of your money making venture first, then a family man second. This can sometimes lead to the creation of unhealthy work-lifers who are extremely profitable to the firm. This is almost impossible to do when they're at home and the oppression is harder to enforce.
It can actually be more cost effective, if you're a large enough firm. Once you pass about 40-50 members, there are instances where you can save on things like data connectivity, equipment costs, and travel to trainings/client meetings. These costs vary wildly by industry, so the fiscal math follows suit. In many cases, it's a cost-saving measure.
There are other factors - tax breaks, stipends from cities to occupy certain districts, nepotism, and social optics, but those are adjunct to the main purpose of getting employees back into a high-rise.