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[-] Seryph@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yes, but that's because GW took the symbol from Michael Moorcock's writings where it is also the symbol for Chaos as a cosmological force but in a less inherently evil way.

The symbol has some history as an anarchist symbol predating GW's use of it in Warhammer. This is partly because Moorcock is an anarchist so lots of anarchists at the time read his fiction, but also simply because it's a cool looking symbol that represents chaos and thus fits the vibe.

[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 11 months ago

Welp now I've got another writer to look into. Might be more hard-commie than anarchist, but I don't like taking up sigils and designs unless I know where they're from and what they mean-- "chaos as a cosmological" sounds like it's up my alley honestly.

[-] Candidate@hexbear.net 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

He's kind of an asshole, unfortunately. He's spent the last 30 years calling Grant Morrison a thief because they put a two page parody of one of his stories in The Invisibles.

[-] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago

I can't entirely blame him, either. He influenced SF/Fantasy on a deep level and he's surprisingly unknown outside of some hardcore circles. That said, my last look at his blog was far more chill than the kind of shit I've seen Leslie Fish type out.

[-] Seryph@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 11 months ago

His books are pretty decent. They're pulp fantasy but in a more interesting way compared to other pulp fantasy. Chaos is still often depicted as a villainous force in them but it's less cut and dry compared to his derivatives. Particularly since Order is also included as the opposite and isn't presented as being (that much) better.

There's also a lot of them, I'd recommend reading a synopsis of each main story he wrote then picking the one that interests you the most to start with. They're all mostly self contained but he also popularised the use of multiverses in fiction to do some crossovers between the different series.

[-] Des@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago

i love that michael moorcock is a curmudgeony posting king in his own forums even in his old age

[-] a_blanqui_slate@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago

As far as symbols go this one pretty funny as to me it reads as the exact opposite.

[-] Seryph@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 11 months ago

The idea is that it's meant to be moving in all directions unrestricted. The Order symbol is just a single arrow to add to this idea.

But yeah it is quite a clean design, especially compared to other anarchist symbols like the common depictions of the A, but you can make less clean versions of it quite easily.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago

Moorcock

Yes, please.

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