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Tuberville failed to mention that he's personally prevented hundreds of officers from being promoted because he disagrees with a 2022 Pentagon policy.

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[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

He is so obviously compromised by external interests he should be removed from office. What logic is there to this? Let him stay up there and fuck our military just because? Is it because he was democratically elected and you can't just remove them? I don't understand how theres such rampant and blatant corruption and nothing is being done.

[-] TechyDad@lemmy.world 65 points 1 year ago

I think Tuberville is trying to keep all these positions open so Trump can appoint loyalists to them should he take office in January 2025. This way, Trump can better guarantee that the military will do what he wants it to do instead of having pesky "morals" ingrained by people who know what they are doing.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago

That "project" should have been the end of the Republican Party when it became public. We are really fucken out here about to be consumed by fascism and people are okay with it. This shit doesn't go away. The entire party is compromised now and forever. You can't ever trust they aren't on a Russian payroll trying to make a coup happen again. Nobody seems appalled by this and even worse, some applaud it.

[-] Cranakis@lemmy.one 16 points 1 year ago

I relate. I'm appalled. I also don't know what to do about it. If they pack the military with loyalists we're in trouble, yet they're on track to pull it off somehow. It's terrifying.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

What I truly think at this exact moment. Its too late. They've stated civil war if Trump doesn't win, and him winning is not a good thing. A lot of institutional things tend to die quietly and the aftershock isn't felt for a while. I think we're experiencing one of these institutional deaths, the death of our functioning democracy. Keep both eyes on any MAGA you know.

[-] Cranakis@lemmy.one 7 points 1 year ago

I've written off most of the magats that I've known. Many that I've known that supported Trump early on have turned their backs now and feel stupid about ever supporting him. I've lost all respect for anyone still supporting that weak ass man baby and have cut ties. If they want a civil war that badly then I suppose we'll have it. I hope they're ready for gun soaked America. It wasn't only right wingers buying guns under the loose current structure.

May I suggest we tear down all the confederate monuments after we win this time, starting with Stone Mountain, GA?

[-] Railing5132@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

May I suggest we tear down all the confederate monuments after we win this time, starting with Stone Mountain, GA?

Can we also tear down anybody sporting the traitor's flag? The number of people way up here in the north (like, sharing a border with fucking Canada) displaying the confederate battle flag is too damn high.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Only after we reenact Sherman's March to Sea in those places

[-] Cranakis@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

Not necessary. Georgia would be blue if it weren't for the GOP gerrymandering and cheating every election. It's purple even with their shit. You'd burn more allies than enemies, especially in Atlanta and Savannah today.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Oh I don't mean a literal reenactment, just where the traitors are and only they are.

[-] TechyDad@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I agree. Had you asked me years ago (before Trump), I would likely have argued that the Republican party could still ditch their extremist elements and return to being a sane party. (Conservative, but still sane.)

I'm not sure if I was naive or if they've gotten worse, but I definitely wouldn't say this about them now.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I think it's both. I, myself, have learned in the past decade or so that there is no such thing as a "sane" conservative party.

Conservative values, ideals, policy, etc. are inherently trash, and no amount of air freshener can cover up that stench.

[-] TechyDad@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

They definitely, in the past, were better at hiding their true goals and were more willing to come up with compromises to move forward. Now, though, they act as though their policies are the only ones that can be implemented and if there's a Democratic majority then the majority needs to bow to whatever the conservative minority wants. But, interestingly, if they have the majority, then they have a "mandate" to do whatever they want without listening to the Democratic minority. Nice double standard, huh?

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

One little niggle. They aren't in league with the Russians. Their goals often appear to align. And believe me Russians are useful to the people Republicans are in league with. But it isn't the "Russians". It's the wealthy. All the ones that we know of. And especially the ones who hide their wealth.

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

We call that the oligarchy and for them they don't live behind any boarders. Truly stupid of us to put our livelihoods in the hands of people who have no loyalty to any nation. For example wealthy Americans hide their wealth in off shore accounts to avoid laws and regulations here in the states. Laws and regulations put into place to govern their wealth. In this way they flaunt their country and show they are not loyal to anyone but themselves.

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Yep. The military leaders who stood strong are the only reason his coup failed to create as much chaos. 1/6 was our Beer Hall Putsch

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Trump could not appoint enough loyalists to high command to do anything other than sow chaos. The top brass ain't going to play his games. Full stop.

[-] athos77@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago

fuck our military just because?

Nope, that's just the cover. Remember how they prevented Obama from appointing federal judges and a Supreme Court seat, then speed-marched every possible conservatively-vetted candidate through as soon as they got the Senate?

Now remember how the military did not support Trump's ambitions on January 6th? They're determined to stuff the military with proto-fascists so that the next coup will have military backing.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I hope there are two critical flaws with their plan.

  1. Having enough loyalists to fill most positions

  2. Everyone else in the military

They have to secure all the top positions, which I think thankfully are filled already. Without that, the chain of command overrides all the loyalists appointed. And if they do decide to disobey orders, I think we'd see more soldiers rebelling against obviously installed political lackeys than against institutional leaders.

This is all conjecture that I hope is the case, but I could be totally wrong about. I'd like to think that most of the military would have no respect at all for political appointments nor lower ranks getting vastly promoted for their politics.

And then on top of that, the people who were passed over for promotions are not going to be pleased, and most of them are already in leadership positions. Asking them to attack the American people against their oaths and on behest of someone who snubbed them is doubly unlikely.

But again, I might be being too optimistic. It's impossible to know unless it happens, which we would rather not be the case. It pays to stay wary and prepare for the worst while still hoping for the best.

[-] TheaoneAndOnly27@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

At this point he's so blatantly compromised and everyone knows it that he should be charged with treason and given the appropriate punishment.

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