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China Did A Cringe. (hexbear.net)
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AI have no rights. Your AI creations are right-less. They belong in the public domain. If not, they are properties of the peoples whose art you stole to make the AI.

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[-] Commiejones@hexbear.net 10 points 11 months ago

nobody stole anything. they got a copy of the data of an image. That data is publicly available and anyone looking at that image on their computer has a copy of that data.

I'm not against artists being paid. I'm saying that AI is nothing without an operator and that means AI art is made by artist who should be afforded all rights of any other artist.

[-] Mokey@hexbear.net 10 points 11 months ago

Youre again taking for granted that a lot of the art is free, when it shouldnt be. The people who make that art should be making a living doing something that takes so much work and study to be able to do.

[-] Commiejones@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago

That is a capitalism problem not an AI problem.

[-] Mokey@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago

Okay but until we lose capitalism it doesnt matter does it

[-] very_poggers_gay@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago

That data is publicly available and anyone looking at that image on their computer has a copy of that data.

I might be misunderstanding, but it sounds like you aren't drawing a line between being able to view, save, and edit data on your computer for whatever personal reasons vs. turning that data around to make a profit.

[-] Commiejones@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago

the data that a LIM is pushing out is not substantiative based on any one image. If an individual cuts up 1000 magazines to make a colage and resells it did they infringe on the copyrights of a photographer who took one of the pictures? They took that person's data and turned it around to make a profit.

[-] WithoutFurtherBelay@hexbear.net 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The problem is the stealing of labor. Not by you, mind, but by the people who put together these AI codebases. Artists did not put up images expecting them to be able to automatically used to obsolete their job, they expected people to directly copy or save them, which would maintain their IE signatures and stuff. This is why artists really dislike tracing, because taking someone else's creative expression and passing it off as your own is a (subjectively) kind of scummy thing to do that's much worse than piracy or IP theft (not because it's particularly bad, but because those things are like literally not bad at all).

The issue is fundamentally that AI models are exploiting someone's labor to be created. It's just the same kind of labor exploitation we always do but scaled up a bit.

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