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[-] JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyz 62 points 11 months ago

Nah this mod was making trans people into trans people that regretted it. They planned on removing all the people of colour because of "realism" and do other assorted fuckery. There was a long post about the group that was writing this mod, it wasn't done in good faith.

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

In other words, there's "let people mod whatever they like" and there's mods that are effectively a statement of an ethos, and not all ethos are worth letting your platform be used to broadcast.

There's also mods that are tools to give players more freedom, and mods that are fixes to correct what the dev sees as mistakes or shortcomings. The difference between "choose what color you want the flags to be" and "the flags are all blue now". The latter is a statement of a belief: "I think the game would be better if all the flags were blue".

The changes in this mod could be framed differently, like "gives player more granular control over NPC gender and sexuality". It could have been done in a respectful and open-ended fashion that doesn't play on harmful stereotypes. It could even be used to make the game "more gay" if the player chooses, then if some players choose to make it all "less gay", so be it. That would be fine.

But that's not what this mod is, and the intent behind it is fairly obvious. There's no reason to pussyfoot around this one with arguments about player freedom, that wasn't why it was made.

[-] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

100%. Sometimes I don't know if that concept is maybe to hard to get for some or if they actively choosing not to understand.

[-] JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyz 6 points 11 months ago

Yeah well those types are arguing for the sake of making a show for bystanders and wear down their interlocutor than to have a honest discussion. Just look at their best (shen bapiro) and how the dude is arguing. It's all in bad faith. They play the card of being innocent and inquisitive, try to uphold the free speech and stuff like that...and it's all in bad faith.

Or the people arguing here for the "freedom" of installing this mod.

I mean feel free, just not available from nexusmod.

this post was submitted on 05 Dec 2023
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