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[-] eldrichhydralisk@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 11 months ago

I downvoted it for the total lack of context. The video title is opaque at best and clickbait at worst. Neither OP nor the video's creator offer any description of what this "critique" is supposed to be. Are we roasting the game? Are we defending the game? Are we trying to give a more fair and balanced treatment than others have? From the post, the video title, and the video description I have no idea what this is or why I should give it any of my time, so I consider it spam and I downvote.

Generally, when videos get posted to a forum like this I want to see OP chime in with why this video is worth our time. If you're posting it, you should already have watched it, so you're the first person in this community who can tell us what's good or bad about it. That's incredibly valuable! Even a one sentence blurb about what made you post this particular video here is a huge help to people looking for info about this topic, especially when the video is 48 minutes long.

[-] mrh@mander.xyz 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I appreciate you being the 1/8 to actually state their reason!

Everything seemed pretty self-explanatory to me in a community like this since:

  1. Videogame critiques on youtube are quite popular (and have been for years)
  2. Joseph Anderson is one of the most popular video game critics. His (second!) Fallout 4 critique has 10+ million views
  3. Lies of P is a very popular game which came out this year, and souls-likes in general are very popular games which people love to talk about

Also I wholehartedly disagree with downvoting something as spam when you have no idea what it is. And why do you need me to tell you what "we're" doing here? It's not for me to say whether this is a thread for roasting the game or praising it or anything else. I'm not sure I could even think of a more clear, straightforward title (and it's simply the video title).

I also don't feel it's my obligation to share my thoughts on something I post. As OP I prefer for people to think for themselves and form their own opinion about the content.

[-] eldrichhydralisk@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 11 months ago

I find your resistance to offering thoughts on the things you share in a forum strange, because you seem friendly and well spoken. Just a quick sentence describing what this video was and why you wanted people to see it probably would have got you my upvote instead.

Joseph Anderson may have millions of views, but I'm not in those millions. I never heard of the guy until you posted this. So all I had to go on was that its something about Lies of P and it's 48 minutes long. That's a lot of time to spend on figuring out whether a random Internet post is worthwhile or not. Cute cat pictures can stand on their own, those only take a second to look at and tell if they're good or bad, but a long form video really needs some context before I can say whether I'm interested in seeing it or boosting it to other people. And if I don't have the context to say whether the post is good, I'll downvote it to make room for the posts that are definitely good.

[-] mrh@mander.xyz 1 points 11 months ago

I think I said something a bit stronger than what I meant. I'm not averse to sharing my thoughts on posts, I've just never held it against a post if the OP happens to not provide some comment containing their thoughts on it.

I do see what you're saying about not knowing what something is, and not wanting to spend ~1 hour on it to find out. Though I still don't think that's what downvoting is for (unless you have positive evidence that it's spam).

Mainly I disagree with "I'll downvote it to make room for the posts that are definitely good". That's just very much not my philosophy and not one I ever took to be a majority view. Downvoting for me means the content is not good/appropriate/whatever. It's a sign of negativity, and being not definitely good != being bad.

[-] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

Also I wholehartedly disagree with downvoting something as spam when you have no idea what it is.

The fact that it's not clear what it is or why it deserves to be posted is what makes it spam. Ambiguous titles with no user participation cannot be quality posts.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

It's a critique of Lies of P. Seems pretty self-explanatory to me.

[-] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 11 months ago

On the other side, spammers could add a quick sentence to a low value video, making it "valid" if that's the criteria used

[-] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

A summary doesn't make it not spam. A video without one always is.

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