776
Calls to reform UN Security Council after US vetoes Gaza ceasefire
(www.aljazeera.com)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 10 Dec 2023
776 points (95.0% liked)
World News
38994 readers
1331 users here now
A community for discussing events around the World
Rules:
-
Rule 1: posts have the following requirements:
- Post news articles only
- Video links are NOT articles and will be removed.
- Title must match the article headline
- Not United States Internal News
- Recent (Past 30 Days)
- Screenshots/links to other social media sites (Twitter/X/Facebook/Youtube/reddit, etc.) are explicitly forbidden, as are link shorteners.
-
Rule 2: Do not copy the entire article into your post. The key points in 1-2 paragraphs is allowed (even encouraged!), but large segments of articles posted in the body will result in the post being removed. If you have to stop and think "Is this fair use?", it probably isn't. Archive links, especially the ones created on link submission, are absolutely allowed but those that avoid paywalls are not.
-
Rule 3: Opinions articles, or Articles based on misinformation/propaganda may be removed. Sources that have a Low or Very Low factual reporting rating or MBFC Credibility Rating may be removed.
-
Rule 4: Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, anti-religious, or ableist will be removed. “Ironic” prejudice is just prejudiced.
-
Posts and comments must abide by the lemmy.world terms of service UPDATED AS OF 10/19
-
Rule 5: Keep it civil. It's OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It's NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
-
Rule 6: Memes, spam, other low effort posting, reposts, misinformation, advocating violence, off-topic, trolling, offensive, regarding the moderators or meta in content may be removed at any time.
-
Rule 7: We didn't USED to need a rule about how many posts one could make in a day, then someone posted NINETEEN articles in a single day. Not comments, FULL ARTICLES. If you're posting more than say, 10 or so, consider going outside and touching grass. We reserve the right to limit over-posting so a single user does not dominate the front page.
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
Lemmy World Partners
News !news@lemmy.world
Politics !politics@lemmy.world
World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world
Recommendations
For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/
- Consider including the article’s mediabiasfactcheck.com/ link
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
It is cultural genocide. And kidnapping the children is indeed real genocide.
But Russia's goal is clearly not the total elimination of the people of Ukraine.
Israel wants to literally kill all Palestinians and replace them with israelis. Do you disagree with that?
Russia's goal is absolutely the total elimination of all Ukrainians -- they want Ukraine to cease to exist, consumed by them. They thus eliminate all Ukrainians by instead forcing them to be Russian citizens.
And honestly? I don't think that's Israel's goal, because they don't seem to have a goal. It's just senseless and directionless violence and. To me it looks more like them lashing out because they can. Just like Russia with Ukraine, they want Palestine to cease to exist and all Palestinians to either become Israeli or be exiled. The settler program makes that much obvious.
It's not a super big distinction though, frankly. Sure Israel isn't methodically killing every Palestinian, but they sure as hell don't care about how many Palestinians die. Again, just like Russia with Ukrainians. The goal isn't an organized campaign of ethnic cleansing, but more the total consumption of the land, no matter how many Palestinians or Ukrainians die.
Elimination of a passport does not mean unaliving someone.
Correct, but that doesn't mean it isn't genocidal. The US didn't stop being genocidal to Native Americans when they stopped killing them.
When would you say that the genocide of the Native Americans stopped then?
IMO not trying to wipe out their race was a great starting point.
Hmmm. Good question actually. I don't know.
No it did not stop then. Not at all.
There is indeed still some genocide in there with kidnapped children but the main part here seems to be cultural genocide. Is that the same as physical genocide though?
Would France banning religious clothing in schools then also constitue as genocide? I don't think so.
What would you say is the point that the genocide against the natives ended?
Both are destroying a culture. Actually, the former in this case is destroying multiple cultures. Including killing children. And you may argue that they didn't murder those children. I would say they did because neglect is a form of murder when it comes to children.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/interior-dept-investigation-finds-burial-sites-53-indian-boarding-schools-2022-05-11/
It hasn't.
https://www.tribstar.com/news/local_news/indianas-miami-tribe-battling-for-federal-recognition-after-rule-changes/article_c85613bc-5c6a-5caa-9471-6394726f0fc7.html
Israel's goal is to end Hamas as a concept, and destroy their infrastructure and resources so they do not have a viable successor
They aren't doing a great job of it. The wanton killing is just making things worse. To truly defeat terrorism they need to invest in the civil government of Gaza and build it up. Otherwise there's always going to be someone to replace Hamas, unfortunately.
I would definitely have prosecuted this war differently, yes.