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Batteries inside of stove/microwave/coffee machine/etc. with the sole purpose of keeping the time from resetting when it loses power.
You don’t even need that. My microwave is wifi connected but still can’t keep time. Instead of using NTP like any appliances or industrial control system in the last decade+, it syncs to your phone time though an app.
Wtf.
my microwave doesnt need wifi its a fucking microwave
A rather neat feature is scanning the barcode of an item with the phone app and the heating program is set automatically.
But setting the time automatically using ntp would have been enough for me.
I'm guessing that the way it works is it's sending the barcode number to the microwave supplier, the supplier sends it to 5738 vendors who have legitimate interest in updating the profile they already have on you, then the heating programme is sent back to you. The same heating programme is described on the package you already hold in your hands. Fingers crossed that your microwave is getting security updates, if not, someone could be downloading all data from your laptop because they got into your network using a microwave. That is the reality of IoT.
I just wish my microwave could have a Facebook login.
How many screen taps does it take to scan your food and send it to the microwave vs typing in the time like normal?
"Smart" microwave might be generally helpful, but a lot of them aren't for some reason, they went the first step of connecting to wifi and stopped there. Getting notification when ready or setting specific time and program via google voice instead of fiddling with controls is genuinely useful stuff that I would love to have
I'm so tired of everything being wifi connected
Nothing in my house is WiFi connected, other than computers and phones. It’s staying that way forever.
How about a custom OpenBSD router which allows only whitelisted traffic through, with a custom DNS server and comprehensive network monitoring, for aren't we paranoid?
Orrrrrr
Only computers and phones
Life is easy
Four desktop
Two rPi
Two ifone
One iPad
All we need
Life is good
Fuck IoT
All my homies hate IoT
If you have wifi you need to store it's credentials somewhere, and you run into same issue.
Actually automatic way would be to just take GPS signals clock time.
RCC has been available since the 80s. Much of the wold has been covered by radio time broadcasts that would be used by devices to set their own time but somehow it didn't start to become really commonplace until wifi allowed for 2-way communications 🤔
I've conditioned myself fully by this point to only use the clock on the stove as an indicator of whether my power has or has not gone out
How often does your power go out? Why can't you be bothered to set the time every ~10 years that probably happens?
Personally, where I live now, my power has gone out in the last five years more often than the rest of my life combined. I’m in my mid 30s.
That's crazy! Where do you live?
I live in a rented house, it’s a double bungalow style with a lovely family attached. During COVID our power was out for three days straight. It was wild. Luckily I have a car that I can waste tons of gas to charge my things with (also luckily it has like seven USB ports), and also some battery packs that can charge things.
Went out and got tons of ice to put in the refrigerator and freezer and cooler.
Set up our iPad connected to our phone as a hot spot and watched YMS play Jump King for all three days. It was wonderful. I miss being NEETs.
I guess you haven't cleaned your microwave in 10 years or had to do any electrical maintenance in the kitchen.
My microwave does not have a digital timer. And yes, over the ~9 years I am living in my current flat, I did not have to do any electrical maintenance. Do you have to do that regularly?
I'll have momentary power losses probably once or twice per quarter, depending on bad thunderstorms or nearby construction, things that happen worldwide and affect power grids indiscriminately.
I do set my stove clock, I just ironically find it more useful to not improve it in this ridiculously simple way because it's a good indicator of whether my home has had a power outage. Lol
Even just a capacitor to keep the time for 10 minutes or so. That would cover 99% of the power outages in my home
Computers have CMOS batteries. They are pretty cheap. I don't know why they haven't been added yet.
That's most likely what they're referring to: batteries for the RTC.
Just connect an overpriced UPS to every device ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
As a bonus, you can still make coffee in a power cut.
At this point I believe there is a conspiracy behind it